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<font face="Georgia">pier.js has these response headers:<br>
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HTTP/1.1 200 OK<br>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:00:21 GMT<br>
Server: Zinc HTTP Components 1.0<br>
Expires: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:30:21 GMT<br>
Content-Length: 537<br>
Cache-Control: max-age=1800<br>
Content-Type: application/x-javascript<br>
Via: 1.1 <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.humane-assessment.com">www.humane-assessment.com</a><br>
Keep-Alive: timeout=1, max=99<br>
Connection: Keep-Alive<br>
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so, Zinc would mean Seaside had a hand in it.<br>
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Also. looks like you lowered the keep-alive timeout and I'm not
seeing the 15 second files - the biggest thing I see now is
getting jQuery downloaded. Progress!<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Bob<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/27/12 3:54 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Hi,
As far as I see, the javascript files are being served directly through apache. Why do you say differently?
Cheers,
Doru
On 27 Nov 2012, at 21:24, Gerhard Obermann <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:obi068@gmail.com"><obi068@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi!
Why are the js files not served through apache.
I have also sometimes long waiting times for the js files only.
BTW we are using Nginx. We moved from apache to lighttp to nginx.
We also compress all js files into one file before serving.
So it seems not be related to the png files only.
Cheers
Gerhard
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Tudor Girba <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com"><tudor@tudorgirba.com></a> wrote:
Hi Bob and James,
Thanks again.
It seems to be that the 15s is too much of a coincidence :).
I put together two experiments that show that the loading problem depends on the amount of images:
- a page with 3 extra images on top of the template. This seems to exhibit the problem for exactly one slow loading image:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.humane-assessment.com/test3ExtraImages">http://www.humane-assessment.com/test3ExtraImages</a>
- a page with only 1 extra image on top of the template. This loads fine:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.humane-assessment.com/testOneExtraImage">http://www.humane-assessment.com/testOneExtraImage</a>
But, I still do not quite understand where to look next. Any further advice?
Cheers,
Doru
On 26 Nov 2012, at 20:41, Bob Arning <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:arning315@comcast.net"><arning315@comcast.net></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I wrote a Squeak simulation of the browser loading 14 of the files on your page. I used a separate process for each httpGet: and typically were complete in under 1.5 seconds. When I hit reload on the browser, there are often 1 or 2 files taking a bit over 15 seconds. Suggests something different about how the browser requests data vs. my simple simulation.
Interesting that the response headers are:
HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:19:23 GMT
Server: Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu)
Connection: Keep-Alive
Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
ETag: "392802a-7974-4cf387f145600"
Is it just a coincidence that the keep-alive timeout is 15 seconds and that the slow files take 15.7 seconds? Attached is an HAR file with the browser timing details.
Cheers,
Bob
On 11/26/12 4:27 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi Paul, hi James,
Thanks for the answers.
I also thought it has to do with the Apache config, but I had no idea what to look for. Your suggestion certainly look interesting to look into, but I have close to no clue of how to do it. Do you happen to have a bit more hands-on pointers for how to:
- increase the resources count
- add expire headers for the images
?
Cheers,
Doru
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:28 AM, Paul DeBruicker <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pdebruic@gmail.com"><pdebruic@gmail.com></a> wrote:
I suspect James has the answer but you might also consider doing the
following:
-Add expires headers for the images in Apache and people will only have
to download them once.
-Apache 2.2.8 was released Jan 19, 2008 so I'd definitely spend time
upgrading to the latest stable version just to get the security
vulnerability fixes.
On 11/25/2012 08:11 PM, James Foster wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi Doru,
How many resources do you have loading from the same site? Once I had a problem in which Apache was configured (by default) to only provide ten (10) items per second to the same client. I believe this was an attempt to avoid a denial-of-service attack. When I changed Apache to allow 30 items per second then my site loaded much faster.
James
On Nov 25, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Thanks. But, somehow, I think size is not really the issue.
Somehow randomly, one or two of the pictures take significantly more (the delta is measured in seconds) to load than the others.
And yes, I am using the timeline debugging functionality from the browser.
It's strange.
Doru
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<pre wrap="">Hi Doru,
I would reduce the image size to the displayed size and reduce the bit depth of the png to 8.
I tried it with home-icons-400-200-37.png.
Before: 31.092 Bytes
After: 7.678 Bytes
Cheers
Gerhard
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Tudor Girba <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com"><tudor@tudorgirba.com></a> wrote:
Hi,
I am working on a pier page, and I have a couple of images in it that seem to be slow to load, although they are served through apache.
It is true that the images are slightly large (~230K), but still I think they appear too slow.
The example is here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.humane-assessment.com/">http://www.humane-assessment.com/</a>
Anyone has any idea of why this would happen?
Cheers,
Doru
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