<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:01 AM, <a href="mailto:seaside-request@lists.squeakfoundation.org">seaside-request@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127, 127); "><b>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">Esteban Lorenzano <<a href="mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com">estebanlm@gmail.com</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127, 127); "><b>Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>Re: [Seaside] my site is completely dead..</b><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127, 127); "><b>Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">January 29, 2013 11:01:04 AM GMT+01:00<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127, 127); "><b>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">Seaside - general discussion <<a href="mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org">seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127, 127); "><b>Reply-To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">Seaside - general discussion <<a href="mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org">seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>><br></span></div><br><br>it depends on many things... as Sebastian said, nothing in the earth runs forever, but you can achieve some stability anyway :)<br><br>first I would check your Pharo version and VM version, to ensure you are using a stable one.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>second, RFB server (vnc server) is known for hang your image time to time (some sockets stays alive when they shouldn't and that is consuming your resources until nothing works :( ). Someone should fix that, but is obviously not so easy, otherwise it would be fixed by now.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>what else? ensure your image is being persisted and backed up regularly, and add a monitoring process...<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Esteban</span></blockquote></div><br><div><div>The issue in RFB was identified and a fix posted, don't think any RFB package maintainers picked it up though.</div><div><a href="http://forum.world.st/leaking-semaphores-tp4432983p4433697.html">http://forum.world.st/leaking-semaphores-tp4432983p4433697.html</a> </div><div><br></div><div>As for Pharo, the relevant issue to giving better error messages instead of freezing is</div><div><div><a href="http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5423">http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5423</a></div><div>but I never got around to actually implementing it :S</div></div></div><div><br></div><div>Also, a new(ish) VM will happily continue leaking semaphores instead of freezing till it runs out of space just the way non-cog used to, if I've understood Igor's latest changes correctly :)</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Henry</div></body></html>