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Ziggy,<br>
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Well, you are not asking a "stupid newbie question" ..<br>
<br>
I've been in the process of improving the documentation and setup
environment for using GLASS, but it is a large task and I'm only
partway through ... I've created a project up on github[1] where I
am hoping to consolidate all of the documentation.<br>
<br>
If you take a look at the project README[2], the installServer
script is described, that downloads, installs and starts a stone ...
in one script ... included in the project is a set of scripts[3] for
starting/stopping stones and a number of common operations. The
scripts work on both the Mac and Linux ... <br>
<br>
The GsDevKitHome development environment is based on tODE[4] and all
of the documentation is written assuming that you are using tODE,
but if you know what you are doing you can use GemTools or Jade. <br>
<br>
By using the installServer script or the createTodeStone (once
you've done an initial install) scripts to create stones, you will
be guaranteed to get a GsDevKit/GLASS installation using the latest
code base.<br>
<br>
Once you've created a stone, follow the GsDevKitHome Seaside3.1
project installation instructions[5]. <br>
<br>
Normally, I would say feel free to ask me more questions and I could
help you with any issues that you might run into, but I have a
family health issue to take care of and I will not be generally
available for at least a couple of weeks. I will be checking email
when I can.<br>
<br>
If you join the GLASS/GSDevKit mailing list[6], there should be
folks in the community who can answer many of your questions.<br>
<br>
Dale<br>
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[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome">https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome</a><br>
[2]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome#open-source-development-kit-for-gemstones-64-bit">https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome#open-source-development-kit-for-gemstones-64-bit</a>-<br>
[3]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/master/bin/README.md#gsdevkit-scripts">https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/master/bin/README.md#gsdevkit-scripts</a><br>
[4]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/dalehenrich/tode#tode-the-object-centric-development-environment">https://github.com/dalehenrich/tode#tode-the-object-centric-development-environment</a>-<br>
[5]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/tree/master/projects/seaside31#seaside31">https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/tree/master/projects/seaside31#seaside31</a>-<br>
[6] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.gemtalksystems.com/mailman/listinfo/glass">http://lists.gemtalksystems.com/mailman/listinfo/glass</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/20/15 5:31 PM, Ezequiel Tolnay
wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_signature">Hi all,</div>
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<div class="gmail_signature"><br>
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<div class="gmail_signature">This is the first time I'm asking
something to the community after 20 years in IT! And I really
hate coming with the stupid newbie question...</div>
<div class="gmail_signature"><br>
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<div class="gmail_signature">I'm banging my head on the wall
trying to get a basic GLASS/Jade set-up up and running. All
the tutorials are outdated and whilst some tools seem to
continue to work (I couldn't manage to install a GLASS extent
on my linux server, but I could on my mac), the instructions
to get all the required libraries/supporting classes fails at
some point. Other people has had the same problem and asked
for a solution but in the last year or so there have been no
satisfactory answers.</div>
<div class="gmail_signature"><br>
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<div class="gmail_signature">The cleanest and simplest
guidelines I've found so far, which fail, are the following:</div>
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<ol>
<li>Set-up Gemstone/S 64 on mac (done, although this is a
temporary measure, I'll need to install on linux in
production)</li>
<ul>
<li><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Oz4RLcEWXs">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Oz4RLcEWXs</a><br>
</li>
</ul>
<li>Set-up a GLASS extent and upgrade Metacello, Margerite,
and Seaside to use with Jade (fails):</li>
<ul>
<li><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnRB5rBbkiI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnRB5rBbkiI</a><br>
</li>
<li><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://programminggems.wordpress.com/2013/10/01/jade/">https://programminggems.wordpress.com/2013/10/01/jade/</a><br>
</li>
<ul>
<li><br>
</li>
<li>> run</li>
<li>ConfigurationOfMagritte3 project stableVersion load.</li>
<li>%</li>
<li>--transcript--'Loading 3.0.1 of
ConfigurationOfMagritte3...'</li>
<li>ERROR 2010 , a MessageNotUnderstood occurred (error
2010), a MetacelloVersionConstructor does not
understand #'baseline:with:' (MessageNotUnderstood)</li>
</ul>
</ul>
</ol>
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<div class="gmail_signature">The problem seems silly, just one
missing message on MetacelloVersionConstructor.</div>
<div class="gmail_signature"><br>
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<div class="gmail_signature">I've gone through with the Boquitas
tutorial in Pharo and I'm very keen on beginning to develop a
solution in seaside that can actually be used in production.
Is GLASS dead? How is seaside normally used in a demanding
production environment? GNU smalltalk and a database?</div>
<div class="gmail_signature"><br>
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<div class="gmail_signature">Thank you and apologies for the
newbie annoyance!</div>
<div class="gmail_signature"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_signature">Cheers,</div>
<div class="gmail_signature"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_signature">Ziggy</div>
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