<div dir="ltr">My experience also is, that it becomes confusing when you have large html files.<div><br></div><div>I also "translate" the html into smalltalk/seaside/mdl code. </div><div><br></div><div>Disadvantages are clear - if I get a new html file, I have to find out the changes and translate them again.</div><div><br></div><div>But for me the advantages weigh more.</div><div><br></div><div>also when the page turns into an application and gets more dynamic, it often is not possible to deal with html files.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-06-22 11:48 GMT+02:00 Siemen Baader [via Smalltalk] <span dir="ltr"><<a href="/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4952244&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]</a>></span>:<br><blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em' class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

        <div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Stephan Eggermont <span dir="ltr"><<a href="http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4952242&i=0" rel="nofollow" link="external" target="_blank">[hidden email]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em' style="border-left:2px solid #cccccc;padding:0 1em" class="gmail_quote"><span>On 22/06/17 11:26, Siemen Baader wrote:<br>
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Other approaches welcome, I just want to keep my templates as valid HTML<br>
outside the image so I can use external dev tools on them.<br>
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I've given up on external tools dealing with files. Files are for export. In Seaside I can reduce the duplication to a level that small changes impact so many files that using external file-based tools is pointless. </blockquote></span><div><br><span class="">Yes, that is one important drawback to be balanced against what I gain from the UIs of dedicated web design tools.<br> </span></div><blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em' style="border-left:2px solid #cccccc;padding:0 1em" class="gmail_quote">That also means that I don't use Seaside for everything.<span class="m_-8791828313868925091HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></blockquote><div><br><span class="">Which alternatives do you use, in which situations?<br></span></div><div><br></div><div>-- Siemen <br></div><blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em' style="border-left:2px solid #cccccc;padding:0 1em" class="gmail_quote"><span class="m_-8791828313868925091HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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Stephan</font></span><div class="m_-8791828313868925091HOEnZb"><div class="m_-8791828313868925091h5"><br>
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