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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thomas,<br>
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thanks for your interest. Yes, I was sure I am not alone in my
search for best practices and recipes. Or stories of failures to
learn from.<br>
<br>
So we are already 3, because I got a PM from another developer not
really located in our Region ;-)<br>
<br>
Hope to hear from a few more soon.<br>
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<br>
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Am 28.09.17 um 10:53 schrieb Thomas Brodt:<br>
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<p>Hi all</p>
<p>I would be very interested in a group sharing any experience
with Glorp. <br>
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<p>We currently have exactly these questions on our list that
Joachim mentions, and some more. And as we also have an Object
Lens Visualworks application, there are interesting questions
regarding similarities and differences between the two, in their
usage and their internals. And besides the rather introductory
documentation for basic operations and mapppings, there is none
of the more "advanced" techniques and best practices that come
with a larger business application if you succeeded with the
first steps.</p>
<p>We're located near the border of Switzerland to Germany, so the
region would match ;-) <br>
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<p>But anyone interested whereever in the world should take this
opportunity to get in touch!</p>
<p>Thomas<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 28.09.2017 um 08:56 schrieb <a
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<p>Hi there,</p>
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<p>since nobody at ESUG seemed to be interested in a
Glorp/Seaside BOF as I suggested, I try something new now ;-)<br>
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<p>Glorp is a great tool for OR mapping and works very well.
There is good introductory material, even if it is hard to
find. But when it comes to real world use, there are many
questions to be answered like</p>
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<li>how to handle transactions, mementos, units of work and
that stuff, especially in a multi-user environment like a
Seaside based web app <br>
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<li>how to map more complicated things, like polymorphic
joins, embedded objects etc.</li>
<li>what if an image slows down gradually when a user has been
working for hours, almsot coming to a standstill. How to
find out if Glorp or your use of it is the problem? What can
you do then?</li>
<li>Is my use of transactions correct or will I face problems</li>
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<p>None of these are easy questions and maybe there are many
possible answers to them, But finding them on your own can be
hard and take a lot of time. It can even be a risk to your
business.<br>
</p>
<p>There is the Glorp group, but it's not actually in heavy use
and sometimes it is hard to write down a problem in a few
lines. Explaining the whole thing sometimes would make for
loooong messages that probably nobody ever reads, esp. if the
poster's english isn't brilliant.<br>
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<p>So what I'm looking for is ways to find and meet people who
also use Glorp (or any other ORM in Smalltalk) and would be
interested in discussing stuff and maybe answer questions.
Something like a Glorp users group.</p>
<p>The best thing to exchange ideas is probably to meet face to
face and carry your laptop with you. So if anybody in Southern
Germany, Eastern France, Northern Switzerland would be
interested in such a meeting, please let me know and I am more
than interested in setting something up. <br>
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<p>The second best is probably some sort of online conference
call. Maybe even on a regular basis.</p>
<p>Please let me know if you'd be interested.</p>
<p><br>
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Joachim<br>
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