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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Bob, <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">it takes quite some courage to answer
      after Johan's excessive post ;-) <br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I try anyways, because there is one
      thing in the back og my mind that seems related, even if it may
      not be the ultimate solution.</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">sending onClick: to a button registers
      an event handler with the button. So far, so good. If you replace
      this button with another button, it is logical that the event
      handler also goes away and is not registered with the new button
      any more. <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">We've had similar problems with
      elements that are not rendered on the page at render time (part of
      the response that initially rendered the page). So we had to
      register an event handler with the doument using an extra
      selector. in Javascript you'd have to do it like this:<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">$(document).on("click","button#idOfTheButton",
      function(event) {...} );  (see <a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="https://api.jquery.com/on/">https://api.jquery.com/on/</a>
      for details)<br>
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    <p>In Seaside, this would look like this:</p>
    <p><br>
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    <p>    (html jQuery document)<br>
                      on: 'blur'<br>
                      selector: '#myButton'<br>
                      do: (<br>
                          (html jQuery ajax) ....<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">The effect of this is that $(document)
      is always there and will check each click event whether it was
      triggered by an element which matches "button#idOfTheButton". This
      means, replacing a button with another one that matches the
      selector will still be triggered.</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">As I said, I am not 100% sure this is
      what you are looking for, but it might be worth looking at.</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">HTH</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Joachim<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 16.09.21 um 10:30 schrieb Johan
      Brichau:<br>
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      cite="mid:ECF33D85-A731-44D6-A0AE-4FEA8FB1D4F2@inceptive.be">
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      Hi Bob,
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      <div class="">The JQAjax#callback being nil is normal if there is
        no “primary” callback. This is what you see: the Ajax callback
        registered on the onblur event (using
        JQAjax>>callback:value:, which is a secondary callback)
        has no primary callback block. The Ajax callback registered on
        the onClick event only has a primary callback block. This is
        fine and works as intended.</div>
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      <div class="">The problem you are seeing is on the client side and
        all about browser events: the click on the button triggers the
        browser’s onBlur event first, which triggers the Seaside
        callback for the blur, which triggers another callback to
        replace the html snippet including the button you pressed and
        the input field that triggered the blur. The html load replaces
        the button you are clicking….  Now, depending on the speed of
        events and callbacks, the html (including your button) will be
        replaced before or after the browser can send the onClick event
        to the button, which would trigger the Seaside callback for the
        button. </div>
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      <div class="">In addition, there is the ordering of events in the
        browser that makes this very complicated to think about: an
        onClick is only fired after a mouseDown and a mouseUp and an
        onBlur is sent because of the mouseDown on the button.</div>
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      </div>
      <div class="">If you include a 100ms delay in the response of the
        Seaside callback, you are effectively making it possible for the
        browser to trigger the onClick event on the original button as
        well.</div>
      <div class="">Without this delay, the browser will have sent the
        mouseDown event to the button but the button will be replaced
        before the browser is able to trigger a mouseUp and an onClick. </div>
      <div class="">Because the new button is not the one you clicked,
        it will not have it’s onclick handler fired.</div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
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      <div class="">If you do not replace the button while rendering the
        Ajax update, it works as well.</div>
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      <div class="">
        <div>Doing some console logging can be helpful to debug such
          issues. See code below and try with or without the delay
          commented out.</div>
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          <div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">    </span>html
            textInput </div>
          <div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">            </span>value:
            self stringValue; </div>
          <div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">            </span>onBlur:
            ((JSStream on: 'console.log(''onblur'')'),</div>
          <div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">                            </span>(html
            jQuery ajax callback: [:value | </div>
          <div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">                                            </span>self
            stringValue: value. (Delay forMilliseconds: 100) wait.</div>
          <div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">                                            </span>Transcript
            cr; show: Time now displayString  , ' value: ' , value
            asString]</div>
          <div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">                            </span>value:
            (html jQuery this value); </div>
          <div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">                    </span>onSuccess:
            ((JSStream on: 'console.log(''contentload-onblur'')'),(self
            renderContentLoadDivOn: html) ))).</div>
          <div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">    </span>html
            break; break. </div>
          <div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">    </span>html
            button </div>
          <div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">            </span>onClick:
            ( (JSStream on: 'console.log(''onclick'')'),</div>
          <div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">                            </span>(html
            jQuery ajax callback: [</div>
          <div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">                                    </span>self
            stringValue: self stringValue , '+'.</div>
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            cr; show: Time now displayString , ' button: ' , self
            stringValue asString];</div>
          <div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">                    </span>onSuccess:
            ((JSStream on: 'console.log(''contentload-onclick'')'),(self
            renderContentLoadDivOn: html) )));</div>
          <div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">            </span>with:
            'Press’.</div>
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          <div>Hope this helps,</div>
          <div>Johan</div>
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            <div class="">On 15 Sep 2021, at 23:40, Bob Nemec <<a
                href="mailto:bobn@rogers.com" class=""
                moz-do-not-send="true">bobn@rogers.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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                  Wow, this is proving to be challenge. The problem is
                  that in <span class="">JQAjax>>processCallback #<span
                      class="">callback is sometimes nil. When it is,
                      the button press callback is not processed and the
                      button has to be pressed again. But, if the onBlur
                      of the text input field has a 100ms delay, the
                      #callback value is not nil and the button callback
                      works all the time. Which is especially
                      frustrating because adding diagnostic traces slows
                      down the first callback enough for things to
                      work. </span></span></div>
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                    class=""><span class="">This is pushing me to the
                      edge of my Seaside knowledge. I will try this same
                      example with the latest Seaside code on Pharo. If
                      it works, I'll work on getting us updated (we
                      develop in VW but deploy on GS). If not, I'll have
                      a nice packaged problem to raise on the Seaside
                      part of the Pharo Discord channel. </span></span></div>
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                    class=""><span class="">Bob</span></span></div>
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                  <div class="">On Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 08:58:31
                    a.m. EDT, Karsten Kusche <<a
                      href="mailto:karsten@heeg.de" class=""
                      moz-do-not-send="true">karsten@heeg.de</a>>
                    wrote:</div>
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                          font-size: 13px;" class="">Hi Bob,</div>
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                              <div class="">We use onBlur to get the
                                data from input fields and to refresh
                                the state of the view. The problem comes
                                up if a button is included in the
                                refresh: the ajax callback from that
                                button is not handled (which makes sense
                                due to the jQuery load), so the user has
                                to press the button again.</div>
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                        <p class="">I’d say it actually doesn’t make any
                          sense. Your callbacks are registered, they
                          should work regardless. You could use the
                          Web-Browser’s network tool/profiler to see
                          which event-handler is fired and what network
                          requests are made. Maybe one of the requests
                          doesn’t come through correctly and you can
                          investigate that further. </p>
                        <p class="">Some things you should also
                          consider: when you use render HTML-Snippets
                          that contain Javascript (like new
                          click-handlers), Seaside will automatically
                          add these inside a <script>-tag at the
                          end of this snippet and inject that into your
                          DOM at the place where you inject the HTML. In
                          your case you should have a <script>-tag
                          at the end of your #testDiv. </p>
                        <p class="">I’m not entirely sure about this,
                          but iirc replacing that script-tag will also
                          remove all event-handlers that were registered
                          as part of this tag. On the other hand
                          replacing the <script> also means
                          replacing the <button> so you should
                          still have a working button in any case… like
                          i said, it doesn’t really make much sense.</p>
                        <p class="">Karsten</p>
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