[Setools] What we have yet
Alexandre Bergel
Alexandre.Bergel at cs.tcd.ie
Sun Jun 25 14:45:11 UTC 2006
Hi Klaus!
> I'm interested in better (not necessarily faster) prototyping, in
> the sense of drafting new or refining existing software at the
> draft level, with full support of a running+reflexive system (and
> of DNU, of course :)
Do you have an idea of what is currently missing in Squeak ?
> I also want to see diff's of a draft against what is already
> implemented, in a nice GUI. A good draft is > 20 pages and is
> impossible to review together with the customer (user) by using
> system / OB / etc browser alone.
What kind of navigation tool would you need?
Do you mean something more graphical?
> And as already was posted in the "Better write a test or a comment
> for a given method?" thread in squeak-dev, I'd like to see better
> support for tests (don't care on the syntax level). Examples: test
> 1 is related to test 2 by this and that; a method is no longer
> accepted if a test fails; etc.
Omnibrowser enables extensions to be quickly written and added. This
is why it is important to push OB.
Cheers,
Alexandre
>
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:36:36 +0200, Alexandre Bergel
> <Alexandre.Bergel at cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
>
>> Hi Hans and others!
>>
>> This list is a very good initiative.
>> I am interested in improving Omnibrowser. I hope it can become the
>> default Squeak browser. I produced some changeset that enhance OB
>> in two different ways:
>> - Comments are displayed below the definition of a class whenever
>> I click on one.
>> - The list of methods are displayed whenever a class is selected.
>>
>> I believe this two improvements are important. With this two
>> improvements, I do not use the classical browser anymore.
>>
>> Roel has been working on improving OB with a Package/Hierarchy
>> button. This idea come from in Visualworks.
>>
>> Is Colin part to this mailing list ? If not, maybe you should
>> invite him :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
>>
>> NB: Hans, could you set the mailing list has "replying to the
>> list" instead of "replying to the author" ?
>>
>>
>> Am Jun 25, 2006 um 10:27 AM schrieb Hans N Beck:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> for the beginning, I would collect, which tools there are
>>> already for Squeak and/or using Squeak related to Software
>>> Engineering.
>>>
>>> As far as I remember, we have
>>>
>>> - of course the browsers: (Star-, Omni- , .....?)
>>> - Syntax highlighting
>>> - Monticello -> Versioning
>>> - Refactoring
>>> - ....
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> Hans
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>>
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>
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