You can't keep something this great (Squeak) down on the farm forever. It
(is)was only a matter of time before Squeak would start to turn some heads.
Squeak is its own best advertisement. Any programmer who is frustrated by
Squeak not "interoperating" (which in fact it does if you look close), or
not looking like VB etc...is a follower and not a leader. When the leaders
discover Squeak , the followers will follow.
Long Live Squeak !
-Russ Van Rooy
( not a leader nor a follower just a very naughty technoid )

-----Original Message-----
From: Jarvis, Robert P. [mailto:Jarvisb at timken.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 10:14 AM
To: 'squeak at cs.uiuc.edu'
Subject: RE: Another mainstream article about Squeak at PCWeek Online


What I'm concerned will happen is that sixteen zillion Java programmers will
see this and think, "Kewl!  A new way to do <applets/beans/whatever>!!".
They'll flood the Squeak servers with downloads, will get turned off when it
doesn't look-and-feel like C or VB, has no "sandbox" (litter box? :-),
doesn't do <applets/beans/whatever>, doesn't "interoperate" with
Java/VBScript/whatever, and the next article written will be titled "Squeak
Fails To Live Up To Promise".  <sigh>  Journalists...

Bob Jarvis
The Timken Company

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Tim Rowledge [SMTP:rowledge at interval.com]
> Sent:	Tuesday, December 22, 1998 12:45 PM
> To:	Squeak mailinglist
> Subject:	RE: Another mainstream article about Squeak at PCWeek Online
> 
> On Tue 22 Dec, Jarvis, Robert P. wrote:
> > Journalists...  <sigh>   What I find especially aggravating - perhaps
> even
> > chilling - is the last line of the article...  "Sounds to me like a
> better
> > Java".  Eeek.
> >
> Interesting - that's the bit I found oddly reassuring. It's certainly a
> good
> sales pitch in todays world... 'Oh yeah, we do that - but we do this as
> well,
> and have done for a long time. Like java but better'.
> I've learnt again and again how difficult it is to get anything
> satisfactory
> into any magazine; a case in point was the first time a mag wrote about my
> motorcycle building projects. The journo asked me to jot down all the
> techy
> details myself 'so nothing inportant would get forgotten'. The article
> appeared
> with verbatim material from those notes wrapped in quotation marks as if
> I'd
> said them in an interview. Oddly enough, it didn't read at all well!
> It keeps happening and I keep hoping it'll get better.
> 
> -- 
> Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later.  - Brook
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