----- Original Message -----
From: Jarvis, Robert P. <Jarvisb at timken.com>
To: <squeak at cs.uiuc.edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 12:08 PM
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Thinking about a better UI


> This may be taken as blasphemy in some quarters, but in Windows you can
use
> Ctrl-Tab and Shift-Ctrl-Tab to migrate between windows within an MDI
> application.  Perhaps Squeak could incorporate something similar..?

I ask the same.



>
> Bob Jarvis
> The Timken Company
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Norton, Chris [SMTP:chrisn at Kronos.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 1:03 PM
> > To: 'squeak at cs.uiuc.edu'
> > Subject: RE: Re[2]: Thinking about a better UI
> >
> > Hear hear!  I constantly have multiple windows open (Squeak and other
apps
> > too).
> >
> > In fact, when I program my Smalltalk in VSE I often have 12 or more
> > windows
> > open, including several browsers, my sample application(s),
inspector(s),
> > workspace(s), transcript, window builder(s) and sometimes the debugger.
I
> > often feel very hampered in Squeak because it is so hard to organize (on
a
> > 17" monitor) 2 browsers, a change set, one or more inspectors, etc..,
even
> > with the screen maximized.  Let's face it:  my eyesight isn't very good;
I
> > prefer the 800 X 600 setting.
> >
> > Unlike the other folks who've participated in this discussion, I often
use
> > the M$ Alt-Tab (& Alt-Shift-Tab) feature.  I also use the start bar
> > buttons
> > with great frequency.  There has to be a simpler way to navigate betwixt
> > the
> > various Squeak windows!  I often "lose" an inspector or workspace behind
> > another Squeak window.
> >
> > I'd prefer any solution to this problem that can be accessed via the
> > keyboard AND the mouse.  To provide only a key board solution or only a
> > mouse solution will just frustrate too many people.
> >
> > ---==> Chris
> >
> > PS>  Let us not forget Morphs.  Whenever I'm working with morphs, I
> > inadvertently lose some morphs under others.  There should be a simple
way
> > of get a list of the available morphs in your project and then getting
any
> > specific one to move itself to your mouse from wherever it is.
Sometimes
> > my
> > morphs get put into positions where I can't get at some of their halo
> > options too.  The halo mechanism should know that its buttons are off of
> > the
> > screen and adjust themselves into visible space appropriately.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jerome.Garcia at wj.com [SMTP:Jerome.Garcia at wj.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 12:37 PM
> > > To: squeak at cs.uiuc.edu; Peter William Lount
> > > Subject: Re[2]: Thinking about a better UI
> > >
> > >      Peter William Lount wrote:
> > >
> > >      >
> > >      Hey, I DON'T represent that remark! :-b
> > >      >
> > >
> > >      Hey! Me too, Me too!
> > >
> > >      I am very often working with lots of windows associated with at
> > least
> > >
> > >      3 VisualWORKS images running simultaneously plus MS Word, Adobe
> > >      Acrobat Reader, and InternetExplorer. And yes, I can write
> > documents,
> > >
> > >      debug code, and alter user interfaces efficiently in this mode
and
> > >      therefore prefer it. As Peter, I use the task bar a lot and I
want
> > to
> > >
> > >      choose which windows I bring to the front not have someone
> > determine
> > >      what is best for me. I also agree with Peter that it would be
nice
> > to
> > >
> > >      be able to better organize and operate on all of an applications
> > >      windows when desired.
> > >
> > >      Just my two cents :-)
> > >
> > >      Jerome
> > >
> > >
>
>
>