Dean & Brian,

I'm wondering what your problems are - could you explain what you mean by
'fixing the stylus support' and issues that are 'more serious'?! Since I
don't have an E-105 it is really hard to guess what you're talking about. If
you know how to fix this stuff just do it and send me a copy of your changes
- I'll happily integrate it into the next version.

  Andreas
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> From: 	Dean_Swan at Mitel.COM
> Reply To: 	squeak at cs.uiuc.edu
> Sent: 	Monday, August 16, 1999 3:21 PM
> To: 	squeak at cs.uiuc.edu
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> Subject: 	Re: New Squeak Porting Proposals
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> From:  Dean Swan at MITEL on 08/16/99 06:21 PM
> 
> Brian,
> 
>      I have been working on getting Squeak to a "really usable" state on a
> Casio
> E-105, and you're quite correct.  There are a number of issues with the
> WinCE
> port of the Squeak VM, some more serious than just the issues with the
> stylus.
> I'd certainly be interested in anything that is being done in this area.
> 
>      I don't currently own a Palm device, but it presents some interesting
> issues that are similar to those faced on the E-105, at least in terms of
> user
> interface and dealing with a fairly small dispaly.
> 
>                                    -Dean Swan
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> Brian Rice <water at tscnet.com> on 08/14/99 05:18:48 PM
> 
> Please respond to squeak at cs.uiuc.edu
> 
> To:   squeak at cs.uiuc.edu
> cc:    (bcc: Dean Swan/Ogd/Mitel)
> 
> Subject:  New Squeak Porting Proposals
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> 
> 
> Hello all.
>      It seems that there are some simple problems to be fixed before the
> WinCE
> port of Squeak is going to be really usable.  I'd like to have the source
> for that project opened up so that stylus support can be fixed.  Of course
> I'd like to help with this, but I'm not familiar with programming a
> stylus.
>  Also, it seems that a Palm Pilot port would be a great benefit,
> considering that new versions have plenty of memory for the environment.
> I'm collecting info on the hardware, but I'm new to this, and could use
> some help.
>      If anyone has pointers, please let me know.  Also, I am looking into
> making a Squeak based on Self or Omega or another simple prototype-based
> language (make our own, perhaps?).  It would allow the system to run
> faster
> (polymorphic message-sends and dynamic recompilation) and use a slightly
> smaller memory footprint, to say nothing of making programming and
> reflection simpler.  It would also allow Squeak to use the direct
> manipulation interface, Seity, or some derivative.  Also, Morphic would
> probably run better, as it was designed for that language.
>      Hopefully, even the bytecode style VM could be replaced by one that
> manipulates syntax trees or something like that (see the Oberon/Juice
> language project).  All of this should give a base-level performance boost
> and reduce the memory footprint as well, though it may take a while to
> implement.
> 
> If you are interested in any of these ideas, please contact me.  Thanks.
> 
>      Brian
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