When I used to use a Mac every day (years ago), we used CE QuickMail, which
had a great little feature called QuickConference.

It was so elegant and easy to use, I was really quite put off when I finally
did look at ICQ.  (QuickMail was also a great mail program in general).

Not being up on the proprietary Instant Messaging Protocol wars, what are
the options for coming up with an *open* instant messaging protocol?

I have heard that protocol design is a difficult thing, and I have also
heard that IRC is for some reason a bad design (probably because it's from
Scandinavia :-).

This sounds like a job for Squeak!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raab, Andreas [mailto:Andreas.Raab at disney.com]
> Sent: December 23, 1999 6:11 PM
> To: squeak at cs.uiuc.edu
> Subject: RE: InstantMessaging alpha release...
>
>
> Scott and Dean,
>
> Excuse my ignorance (I'm living here between two connections - one where I
> can read email and one where I can do everything else and right now I'm on
> email so I haven't actually check the instant messaging stuff) but I think
> that ICQ is using UDP rather than TCP (since there is no point in having
> zillions of connections open at the same time for a few
> messages). And AFAIK
> UDP is not supported on the Mac.
>
>   Andreas
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Wallace [mailto:Scott.Wallace at disney.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 5:20 PM
> > To: Dean Pu Mao
> > Cc: recipient list not shown
> > Subject: Re: InstantMessaging alpha release...
> >
> >
> > Dean,
> >
> > What a terrific thing to be doing!  This will make a qualitative
> > difference to the experience of using Squeak, particularly for those
> > of us who spend a high percentage of our waking hours in a Squeak
> > image.
> >
> > I got your code, got a registered ICQ number from Mirabalis, and
> > already had an AIM identity, so I fired up an image,  filed in your
> > code, and executed the precipitating do-it.
> >
> > However, it was not successful.  I got the "Messaging" window, but
> > when I hit the "Connect" button, I quickly fell into a debugger,
> > "primitive failed", in Socket.primSocket:connectTo:port:.
> >
> > Do I perhaps need some custom plug-in, or some custom vm, in order to
> > use this stuff successfully?  Or could it be that the debug-notifier
> > is the "normal" way of responding to a request to connect to a user
> > who is presently offline?
> >
> > I'm eager to start using this, but for the moment am stuck...
> >
> >    -- Scott
> >
> >
> > At 5:58 PM -0500 12/23/99, Dean Pu Mao wrote:
> > >Some of you here wanted my instant messaging stuff, so here
> > it is!  Let
> > me
> > >know how you like it.  Better yet, send me an instant message how you
> > like
> > >it!  ICQ and AIM messaging are both supported.  ICQ contact list is
> > >supported, but the AIM buddy list is not yet supported.
> > You'll need a
> > >registered ICQ number from Mirabilis and a registered Screen
> > Name from
> > >AOL to correctly use my client.
> > >
> > >Get the changesets here:  http://instantmessaging.swiki.net
> > >
> > >Dino
>
>