Henrik:

Thanks for the information!

>From what you say, we need two different ports of the Squeak
VM, one for Server OS X (based on the BSD socket API), and
one for the Mac OS (based on the Carbon API's).

Re: I suggest a Squeak port to OS X is begun as soon as possible :-)

I guess you saw Marcel's post:

  Just a reminder that a Squeak port to MacOS-X-Server exists and can  
  be downloaded at: http://www.metaobject.com/downloads/Squeak/


We'll still need a Squeak that runs under Mac OS API's. That
one will have to use the OpenTransport API for sockets. There
are a few other things that need to get migrated to Carbon,
but that's the biggie. I'll do this work, but advice and help
is welcome.

When will things like iMacs and Powerbooks ship with OS X inside?

	-- John


At 2:06 PM +0100 11/10/99, Henrik Gedenryd wrote:
>Note that OS X will also support BSD sockets directly, as in fact all of
>(Free?)BSD is included and available in OS X. The Open Transport support is
>in fact realized by mapping the API to BSD sockets instead of the Mentat
>streams implementation used in the regular MacOS up to and including the new
>9. Of course, BSD access is only available in OSX, and isn't part of Carbon,
>so if you want this code to work also on the regular MacOS, then you'll use
>the Carbon APIs. 
>
>However, if you want speed, it would probably be smarter to keep the current
>Mac code, and adapt Squeak's Unix networking code for OS X, since this is
>what Open Transport calls on OS X anyway. If you need networking speed on a
>Mac Squeak, you'll probably be running OS X on it anyway, so it'll be OK to
>keep the current Mac networking code for OS =< 9. It'll probably be less
>work too to get OS X networking from the Unix code, than by porting the Mac
>code to Open Transport/Carbon.
>
>In general, other than Apple, I recommend that you look for OS X info on
>www.stepwise.com and by searching the archives of macweek and macworld; also
>possibly appleinsider and macintouch (the latter has a nice info "resources"
>collection page). What I know I got from these places when Rhapsody and OS X
>were announced, not from Apple.
>
>By the way, Apple is to release DR/2 of OS X any day now to developers with
>the right credentials. (DR/1 was released at WWDC.) I suggest a Squeak port
>to OS X is begun as soon as possible :-)
>
>Henrik