Recommended WinCE for Squeak?
guzdial at cc.gatech.edu
Fri Sep 24 13:59:57 UTC 1999
> As far as I know, the Casio E-105 is the fastest WinCE device currently
>available, and using Andreas Raab's 2.4 VM with a 2.5 image, Morphic is
>pleasant. I'm fairly certain that this is a software problem. Andreas feels
>that it's not a problem with his VM implementation. That would narrow it to a
>problem in the image, or a WinCE problem. Personally, I haven't ruled out a
>WinCE VM problem yet, but I haven't found the "smoking gun" yet in either the
>image or VM, and I've been concentrating on the image side.
> Under MVC, the E-105 is quite usable, but as I've mentioned in earlier
>discussions about Squeak on the E-105, there are a number of issues UI
>to be dealt with for pen based interfaces, and Morphic only adds to that.
I'm actually seriously considering an E-105, for the reasons you mention.
The problem, however, is *FINDING* one! I've tried literally a half-dozen
sites, and EVERY ONE OF THEM has the E-105 back-ordered.
> I really haven't found where the CPU time is getting consumed, but I
>the E-105 *should* be more than fast enough to run Squeak acceptably in
>I basically bought my E-105 to run Squeak on, so I am spending whatever time I
>can looking into this. I hope you decide to go with the E-105, since a
>Squeaker like you may be able to track down the bottlenecks I've been hunting
>for a lot faster.
> -Dean Swan
> dean_swan at mitel.com
Thanks for the vote of confidence, Dean, but I still consider myself a
Squeak adolescent (except where it comes to those VM and primitives issues
where I'm downright infantile!) But if I can get one (or two!) of the
E-105's, I can place them in our "Squeakers" Lab where the REAL hackers
around here hangout, I think that magic can occur :-)
Mark Guzdial : Georgia Tech : College of Computing : Atlanta, GA 30332-0280
(404) 894-5618 : Fax (404) 894-0673 : guzdial at cc.gatech.edu
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