--On Monday, February 28, 2000, 8:45 AM -0500 Warren Postma
<wpostma at ztr.com> wrote:

[snip] 
> Beyond that, the parallels between Squeak/MVC/Morphic and Tcl/Tk are
many:
> 
> 1. ugly but have fans who are vociferous in their support, probably
> because both are tightly bound to a particular language and style of
> programming. 2. both lack any kind of easy to use gui-builder
> functionality, which makes it hard for anyone new to adopt them

As far as I know, there are several Tk gui builders.

> 3. both lack most of the more modern widget types
> 4. both seem to have adopted the native-look-and-feel of an X-Terminal
> from the early 1980s, 

Squeak's UI antedates that, so I don't think it "adopted" it.

>and neither one has been updated to be capable of
> 'native look and feel' on Mac and Windows.

Tk uses native or nativeish widgets on both Mac and Windows though support
for the Mac seems to be lagging.

But no one wants to stop you from learning Tk. Go ahead. Have a
blast. Learn something. Please.

Cheers,
Bijan Parsia.