How Do You Do Business Apps? (Squeak/Pro Proposal)

Stefan Matthias Aust sma at 3plus4.de
Sat Feb 26 11:07:09 UTC 2000


At 19:09 24.02.00 -0800, you wrote:

>Consider that perhaps some of those "modern" GUI concepts are 20 years old
>and that it just _may_ be possible that one can build better, different
>GUIs

Regading that topic: Does anybody know www.asktog.com, a monthly rant (in
its best meaning) about GUI, usability, the web and other topics.  The
author, I learned, was one of the core developers of the Mac UI.  It's
quite interesting and the current issue talks about that 20 years old UIs...

>and that something like Morphic can be coaxed into providing some of
>the elements in that direction.

I don't see what would be better with Morphic.  It's the same old
mouse/button/menu/window idea.  It's a little bit more concrete - and
that's good - but that is more for designing Morphic, but not using it.  At
least unless you don't want to teach programming or show people how to
create such software.  I'm petty sure the common employee doesn't want to
know how to decompose her accounting software ;-)

>Consider also that the people who
>originally invented those interface widgets and GUIs you love may be on
>this list, and are now thinking other thoughts.  Consider that there are
>some of us who have played with Squeak and Morphic long enough that we've
>stopped trying to make them something they aren't and instead seek to
>understand a different way designed by very smart people who have been
>thinking hard about this stuff for a long time.

Did anybody wrote that you all should throw away any existing UI?  I simply
said that I'd like to see something other, IMHO better, especially if we're
talking about that vague business application thing.

I think, these are two different view points and we shoudn't argue about
that.  I don't want to offend anybody and I'm not offended if anybody like
Morphic or the whole Squeak best in the way it already is.


bye
--
Stefan Matthias Aust  //  Bevor wir fallen, fallen wir lieber auf.





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