How Do You Do Business Apps? (Squeak/Pro Proposal)
Charles-A. Rovira
crovira at wt.net
Fri Feb 25 14:28:37 UTC 2000
The problem is not better. The problem is something that will satisfy the
managerial and legal requirements.
RTF CUA compliance Manuals from IBM you'll see that the U in CUA refers NOT
to a User as a person but to Users as in other systems.
GUI refers to people but they are constrained to behave in CUA compliant
modalities (and Smalltalkers have always had something about/against modes
:-) But if you DON'T comply your system will never get out the developers'
door but teh developer will.
-Charles-A.
Duane Maxwell wrote:
> What I love about this thread is that there's this assumption about the
> creation of "modern" or "serious" applications that means Squeak must act
> like some sort of Visual Basic-like business application with combo-boxes
> and checkboxes and so on.
>
> I hope that people won't take the following comments too personally.
>
> Consider that perhaps some of those "modern" GUI concepts are 20 years old
> and that it just _may_ be possible that one can build better, different
> GUIs, and that something like Morphic can be coaxed into providing some of
> the elements in that direction. Consider also that the people who
> originally invented those interface widgets and GUIs you love may be on
> this list, and are now thinking other thoughts. Consider that there are
> some of us who have played with Squeak and Morphic long enough that we've
> stopped trying to make them something they aren't and instead seek to
> understand a different way designed by very smart people who have been
> thinking hard about this stuff for a long time. Consider also that there
> are several serious, professional developers doing world-class work using
> Squeak, just not very openly, and not precisely in the way you'd expect.
>
> You're certainly welcome to reshape a version of Squeak to meet the
> business computing vision of 1985 - just don't be shocked if many of us
> don't follow.
>
> Regards -
>
> -- Duane
>
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