How Do You Do Business Apps? (Squeak/Pro Proposal)

Duane Maxwell dmaxwell at entrypoint.com
Fri Feb 25 03:09:23 UTC 2000


What I love about this thread is that there's this assumption about the
creation of "modern" or "serious" applications that means Squeak must act
like some sort of Visual Basic-like business application with combo-boxes
and checkboxes and so on.

I hope that people won't take the following comments too personally.

Consider that perhaps some of those "modern" GUI concepts are 20 years old
and that it just _may_ be possible that one can build better, different
GUIs, and that something like Morphic can be coaxed into providing some of
the elements in that direction.  Consider also that the people who
originally invented those interface widgets and GUIs you love may be on
this list, and are now thinking other thoughts.  Consider that there are
some of us who have played with Squeak and Morphic long enough that we've
stopped trying to make them something they aren't and instead seek to
understand a different way designed by very smart people who have been
thinking hard about this stuff for a long time.  Consider also that there
are several serious, professional developers doing world-class work using
Squeak, just not very openly, and not precisely in the way you'd expect.

You're certainly welcome to reshape a version of Squeak to meet the
business computing vision of 1985 - just don't be shocked if many of us
don't follow.

Regards -

-- Duane

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