A quick peek at Altavista found little GeoVRML information. Please
elaborate on why you think that GeoVRML would be a useful addition
to Squeak. 

Would someone please compare and contrast VRML and Alice?

Thanks,

John-Reed Maffeo
Mesa, AZ

"Baveco, Dr. J.M." wrote:
> 
> I would like to second this. It would really be nice to be able to create
> AliceWorlds from carthographic data.
> As an alternative, GeoVRML adds maybe a dozen new objects to VRML; if
> GeoVRML were supported in Squeak (as far as I know VRML support is at least
> partly present already) we would have a (maybe more generic) solution to
> creating 3D object worlds from carthographic data.
> 
> cheers,
> Hans
> 
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van:  John-Reed Maffeo [SMTP:rlpa80 at email.sps.mot.com]
> > Verzonden:    vrijdag 28 april 2000 20:16
> > Aan:  squeak at cs.uiuc.edu
> > Onderwerp:    Re: XP course at UIUC using Squeak
> >
> > Roger,
> >
> > This project is very interesting to me. I don't think I will be able
> > to attend - I would need much more lead time to get away from work for
> > so long:( But I would like to provide a vision of what I want to
> > be able to do one day and let you decide if there is any synergy
> > possible as the projects move forward.
> >
> > Preamble
> >
> > 1. The USGS has made a huge amount of cartographic source data
> >       available on the web for free.
> >
> > 2. The data is stored compressed in a well defined standard format.
> >       http://mcmcweb.er.usgs.gov/sdts/
> >
> > 3. The data can be used to create planemetric and topographic maps.
> >
> > 4. Planemetric data is presented as a topologicaly structured graph and
> >       the topographic data is presented as an array of elevations.
> >       These data can be convolved to produce a very high quality
> >       3D topographic map.
> >
> >
> >
> > Vision
> >
> > Point a browser to a known dataset and materialize a 2 or 3D map of
> > an area as described by the data.
> >
> > Point a browser to a pair of known 2 and 3D datasets
> > covering the same geographic area and materialize an Alice World
> > of that area (or a subset of it) and enable the user to
> > explore it.
> >
> > Discussion
> >
> > There is no place on the web that I have found that provides this
> > kind of service. There are places where you can get digitized map
> > images but they are high bandwidth raster graphics and offer no
> > user interaction other than zooming and panning.
> >
> > The SDTS data standard is a recent evolution in geospatial data
> > distribution and forms the basis of future work on the ITS
> > (Intelligent Transportation System).
> >
> > Squeak has the required infrastructure in Baloon Graphics and
> > Alice.
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > John-Reed Maffeo
> > Mesa, AZ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Roger Whitney wrote:
> > >
> > > Ralph Johnson and I are planning to offer a course on extreme
> > programming
> > > (XP) May 15 - June 9 at UIUC in Champaign-Urbana Illinois. Students will
> > > learn XP by working as an XP team to build a multiuser multimedia system
> > in
> > > Squeak.
> > >
> > > There is a course description at
> > > http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/cs497rej/XP+workshop. See
> > > http://www.xProgramming.com/ for more information about extreme
> > programming.
> > >
> > > While the course is designed for UIUC students, others are welcome to
> > > attend the course. Those with experience in Squeak or XP would not have
> > to
> > > attend the entire time to benefit from the course and contribute to the
> > > project. If you are interested in attending all or part of the course
> > > contact me at whitney at cs.sdsu.edu for more details.
> > >
> > > If you do not attend the course you can help us out by acting like a
> > > customer. Take a look at the project description at
> > > http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/cs497rej/ObjectWeb and suggest
> > features/extensions
> > > to the project. So here is your chance to suggest to a team of UIUC
> > > students to implement some Squeak feature you always wanted. Of course,
> > as
> > > is the XP way, the on-site customer will rank all features (stories) in
> > > order of importance.
> > >
> > > Roger Whitney              Mathematical & Computer Sciences Department
> > > whitney at cs.sdsu.edu        San Diego State University
> > > http://www.eli.sdsu.edu/   San Diego, CA 92182-7720
> > > (217) 328-0824
> > > (619) 594-3535
> > > (619) 594-6746 (fax)