Smalltalk & Squeak featured on Slashdot

danielv at netvision.net.il danielv at netvision.net.il
Sun Apr 22 19:22:24 UTC 2001


Please don't read something in my post that isn't there.
I don't find modularity a sexy topic, but I've been bitten by the consequeneces. If Oasis or some other contribution were to improve the longevity of peoples contributions, I'd be glad too.

BTW, there are other means to that intention - tools or ways of working that make the work of (re)integration easier are another path (RB, adding SUnit suites to contributions). I think cross-dialect frameworks (an anti-fork?) that really work (SUnit is an example) are yet another.

So - new ideas, demos and implementations - cool.

But forks - I don't think forks are an effective means to our various, mostly shared goals. They only add limits to the scope for each contribution. As a subject they relate more to the political than to the technical, and thus aren't what *I* hope to get from this forum. 

So - Forks not cool. 

And please nobody tar Bijan, I still hope to clear a debt of useless advice ;-)

"Les Tyrrell" <tyrrell at canis.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> Daniel,
> 
> Sorry if this topic has become acrimonious.  That certainly wasn't the intent of those of us who
> actually care about this topic, and have spent considerable effort on the issues behind it.  I for
> one would love to have a lively, ongoing discussion on this list about the issues that are going to
> have to be addressed in order to bring modularity to Squeak.  There are many of them, and I think
> that most people on this list would find that discussion to be very interesting, and very relevant
> to them.
> 
> - les
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <danielv at netvision.net.il>
> To: <squeak at cs.uiuc.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 4:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Smalltalk & Squeak featured on Slashdot
> 
> 
> > I wonder - can anyone please create a squeak-fork mailing list?
> > it would be devoted exclusively (and be the only appropriate place
> > for) to disscussion of squeak forks that are not happening.
> >
> > Discussion of actual Stable Squeak projects and achievements
> > would still be appropriate to this list, IMHO.





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