Hi,
	It's part of the way there, the directory is new3.0 or so.
I wasn't quite done yet so I hadn't sent a note around.  I made
a few changes from the proposal in that I am renaming 
files so that they have a consistant nameing scheme, though
that's not all done yet, and there are a few other small changes.
View this is a work in progress which will replace the current
3.0 and 3.1_alpha dirs.

	All that said, I can *not* supply all of the VMs.  I/We really 
need people to build and make available to me the VMs for
different platforms, the unix ones in particular.  I've built
a linux VM using st.cs.uiuc.edu, a linux system, but I can't
test it.  I really don't have other unix systems to build VMs on.
If someone wants to buy me a SGI, Compaq Alpha, SPARC, et al
system I'm happy to take them and build VMs :-)

	If people want to give a look at the current changes, feel
free, though remember that it's not quite done.  I still plan to put 
more separate files for the Windows systems in place, populate
the otherSystems directory, and sprinkle READMEs throughout
so that people can ignore them :-)

cheers

bruce



Doug Way <dway at riskmetrics.com> wrote:
> 
> Stephen Pair wrote:
> > 
> > It would be nice to have all downloads (stable and alpha) consolidated on
> > squeak.org with the following information:
> > 
> >     - platform notes (specific to each OS)
> >     - release notes
> >     - installation instructions
> > 
> > Preferably, for each platform, you would have one downloadable file for the
> > latest stable release,
> 
> Bruce O'Neel posted a proposed new ftp site structure last week which covers most of this, including a single downloadable file for each platform in separate platform directories.  There was general agreement that the structure looked good... I assume he just hasn't gotten around to doing the restructuring yet.  See his message:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/squeak/message/26509
> 
> Your suggestion that the full downloadable files include the .sources file is good, so you'd have everything you need in one downloadable.  I think the proposal above assumes this, but I'm not sure.  (Anyone griping about downloading a .sources file they already have can always download the compressed image/changes files and vm separately if they really want.  The single downloadables should be geared toward first-time users.)
> 
> Some brief release notes/install instructions for each platform might not be a bad idea.  At least, they should mention things like "The recommended VM to use with the Solaris 2.8 image is the 3.0-Solaris VM" or whatever, so there's no confusion.
> 
> > and one downloadable file for the latest alpha
> > release.
> 
> Actually, I think there was general agreement that we *not* do this.  The alpha versions should be relatively hidden from newbies, and shouldn't be made into an all-in-one download, since newbies generally shouldn't be running alpha versions.
> 
> (Also, building an all-in-one downloadable for every new alpha release for every platform seems like an awful lot of extra work for Bruce, who's already doing a great job on a volunteer basis...)
> 
> > The downloadable file would contain everything necessary (vm,
> > changes, sources, plugins, etc) to install and run that version of squeak.
> > Credit should also be given to whomever bundles up a build.
> > 
> > Additionally, it might be useful to have a section for each platform that
> > has "custom builds" for more advanced users.  This might be where someone
> > has made a build with everything pluginized, or all plugins built-in, or a
> > minimal image download, etc.  But, I would keep these clearly separate from
> > the main downloads (the latest stable and alpha for each platform).
> 
> Not a bad idea... although there was a plugins directory for each platform in the above proposal.  Maybe an extra custombuilds directory (for C sources?) would make sense?
> 
> > Ideally, everything (all downloads) would be on squeak.org, making it easier
> > to maintain, archive, and mirror.  Also, it might be good for the platform
> > maintainers (or others) to be able to maintain or update the downloads for a
> > given platform directly.
> 
> All the downloads are pretty much on the "primary ftp archive", which is the UIUC archive mentioned on squeak.org, and its mirrors.  Someone looking for a stable release (like Richard was), shouldn't have to look anywhere else.  (And this is mostly true today, except for some Unix platforms...)
> 
> - Doug Way
>   dway at riskmetrics.com