3.0 Image, 3.0Alpha8MT is probably the VM ? on Mac TiBook, MacOSX 1.0.4.
the OS was probably at 1.0.1 when the freezes occured. 

And, thank you for making my point nicely: It works for YOU. It works for
anyone who has got into using it. This is what I mean when I say (see
my post) "extremely stable in an established use pattern". 

However, it will crash on newbies. One of the first things I did when I
joined this list was enquire how to make the tutorial code work on the
then current release. The incompatibilities in posted tutorials will also
only be spotted by newbies. So, please get my point: Until Squeak is rich
enough to afford a quality assurance team, newbies are your best testers !
Use them !

Edmund

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Andrew C. Greenberg wrote:

> As noted elsewhere, few others have shared your experiences.  Over 
> several years of fairly brutal beating on a variety of platoforms, I 
> have found it mostly bulletproof except when I was hacking the VM.  My 
> powerbook behaves just fine in my hands, by the way.
> 
> A useful bit of feedback would be to identify the version, platform and 
> VM number you were using.

> > On Monday, August 13, 2001, at 08:19 AM, Edmund Ronald wrote:
> 
> > I used to do evaluations of pprogramming language products 
> > professionally,
> > as a journalist. My experience with Squeak rates it a 3.5/5 in 
> > stability.
> >
> > It will crash with good probability in a new-use situation, and be
> > extremely stable in an established use pattern. This is a standard state
> > of narrowly software, whose developers fix the bugs _they_ see
> > immediately, but do not really get much external input on stability.
> >
> > There is a cheap way around this trap: Add to the README a notice 
> > saying :
> > If you have any difficulty in installing this software, if it crashes
> > during the first uses, or if your initial expectations are not met, 
> > please
> > note the details of what you did and email the following adress ...
> >
> > Software usage is a Darwinian process: Crashes are unpleasant, so people
> > tend to unconsciously work around fatal bugs, or stop using the 
> > software.
> > And then, because the experience was unpleasant, they forget about the
> > problems they had. The day the software is *really* released, and people
> > who did not WANT to use it HAVE to use it, managers suddenly see 40% of
> > the new users reporting crashes and wonder why ...
> >
> > Oh, and by the way, I have used Squeak about 10 times, working through
> > tutorials while reading the Magenta book, and had 4 crashes in that 
> > number
> > of sessions. What I dislike most is the crash while saving the state on
> > exit, where I lose my mods (twice) . I now save my work into a file by 
> > cut
> > and paste. The way it turns the Powerbook in my lap into a heater (neat
> > for winter). About what I expected as a new user - if I keep using it I 
> > am
> > sure it will "mysteriously" be totally stable later.
> >
> >  This is not a rant or a complaint - most good software has gone 
> > throught
> > this phase, just think of linux - totally stable in the hands of a pro,
> > and able to make any newbie cry in frustration during his attempts at
> > installing system, particularly X windows.
> >
> > Edmund
> >
> > Squeak is what a mouse does when you rub its ball the wrong way :)
> >
> >
> >
> 
>