Do you have a link to NewtonOS soups?

I think your concept of Viewpoints is like my UserSpace, no?  It is also the
context of an OasisModule, I believe.  

Cross space references would be an interesting problem, that I have been
toying with for the past year or so  (see AddressSpaces in the outdated, and
limited Chatter).  I'm getting ready to ask Allen about this in Firewall..:)

- Rob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jecel Assumpcao Jr [mailto:jecel at merlintec.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 10:20 PM
> To: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> Cc: modsqueak at bluefish.se
> Subject: Re: [Modules] Components or Modules??
> 
> 
> I have to agree that a layered approach that can be developed step by 
> step from the present system is the best choice for Squeak. I 
> have gone 
> in the opposite direction for my own project since integrating the 
> different aspects and starting from a clean slate can make a 
> simple and 
> synergetic solution possible. See how my design is coming along at 
> http://www.merlintec.com:8080/software/8
> 
> Feel free to steal any ideas there, though I am not sure it 
> would work 
> in a system as complex as Squeak.
> 
> One problem in the components and modules debate is that 
> there are two 
> separate system views that are not being explicitly stated. Most 
> programming languages are of the "blue print" kind - you can read one 
> long text and everything about the system that will exist at 
> runtime is 
> in there. Squeak is a "living system" and the sources are no more a 
> complete description of it than the humane genome is all 
> there is to a 
> person. You need DNA *and* a cell to get a new cell.
> 
> Both systems have their advantages and their problems. The ANSI 
> declarative Smalltalk effort is an attempt to get blue print 
> advantages 
> in Smalltalk, for example. My impression is that many modularization 
> proposals are coming from the same direction.
> 
> On the other hand, NewtonOS's soups seemed to me like an attempt to 
> have a modular living system.
> 
> Can we have both? If not, what do each of us want?
> -- Jecel
> 
> 
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