Order! Order in the ...

Alan Kay Alan.Kay at disney.com
Wed Feb 7 05:01:14 UTC 2001


A little clarification here --

Yes, we are working madly (perhaps more madly than usual) ...

But ... this is because the test release (*really soon* now), and the 
"official release of experimental Squeak" (our stone deadline is 
middle of March), does have to stay fairly stable for quite a few 
months in order to allow the "SuperSwiki" transport and exchange of 
whole projects (this is working pretty darn well right now 
internally).

Thus, the frantic push to get as much in as possible and somewhat 
tested right now.

For those who want to sit on a stable, somewhat maintained, version, 
you are about to get your wish over the next month for the next many 
months.

Cheers,

Alan

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At 11:08 PM -0500 2/6/01, Jay Carlson wrote:
>Dan Ingalls [mailto:Dan.Ingalls at disney.com] writes:
>
>>  It's simple...
>>
>>  1.  2.9alpha was effectively the alpha for 3.0.
>>
>>  2.  Some people are still doing test pilot work, so as soon as I
>>  put out 3.0, I advanced to 3.1 to track those updates into the future.
>>
>>  3.  By today (and it ain't over yet...) I had planned to copy all
>>  the 3.1 updates that are bug fixes back into the 3.0 update
>>  stream.  This will continue to be the pattern until no more bugs
>>  are discovered (mm hmm...) or until the deadline for writing the
>>  CD (about a week, now).
>>
>>  4.  So the current scheme allows test pilot work to go on as
>>  normal, while only stable bug fixes are applied to the 3.0 image.
>>   What could be more rational?  Anything short of this would be
>>  mere chaos.  How can anyone fail to appreciate the logic and
>>  sheer elegance of this approach?
>>
>>	;-)
>
>So what should those of us not in test pilot mode do?  I was waiting for an
>opportune moment to a) update my BDF stuff to work with a more recent Squeak
>and b) rebuild the Helio port with a bunch of *really* speedy new Linux goo.
>b is going to block on a new Unix VM, but will there still be anyone
>interested in a&b by the time that shows up?  Is there a non-test pilot
>hacker niche in the Squeak ecology, or is the current stable version only
>for people who aren't planning to work at the pace of the Squeak dev
>community?
>
>Maybe what would make me happy are minor rev numbers.  Like, 3.0.0 is what
>we have now, 3.0.1 after a few more updates, etc.  Just giving a name to
>particular configurations can help non-core hackers do better support in any
>open source project.....
>
>Jay





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