Hmm, actually, that's what I do all the time, I just never saw it as
anything but normal.

> a.	Wildly counter intuitive (in effect I'm sending the same password
> twice to the same agent).
Logically, maybe, yes. Physically, though, the two logins are probably
two different server programs (say, pppd calling login, and the pop
server (Telinco)) checking the same password database. Note that TCP/IP
doesn't generally require authentication, it's applications that do.
 
> b.	Terminologically dubious (is my ISP password a Pop 3 password?).
See above.

> But there may be design decisions here which I'm completely unaware of.
Maybe, but I don't think that any of them are part of Celeste - just the
server software. If netscape doesn't require you to enter a password to
access your mail, then it's probably cheating (assuming the password is
the one it sent to the dialer, and getting lucky). I for one, access my
mail on pop server belonging to ISP A while connected through ISP B, so
if I find Netscape let's me access my mail without entering my password,
I'll get pretty mad ;-) I'd check again that you don't have a profile
defined where you once did enter your password.

Daniel
John Hinsley <jhinsley at telinco.co.uk> wrote:
> Steve Elkins wrote:
> > 
> > John Hinsley <jhinsley at telinco.co.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > [about problems using Celeste]
> > 
> > > Do I need to do anything to the PopSocket?
> > 
> > I've never had to.
> > 
> > > When Celeste requests my password, is it looking for a higher level
> > > authentification than my (ISP style) username?
> > 
> > Just making sure, should the last word of your question be "password"
> > instead of "username"?  I supply the same username and password
> > (and they are not the same strings) to Celeste that I supply to Netscape.
> > All goes well.
> > 
> > But I'm only guessing at what your problem might be.
> 
> Well, I'm only guessing too!
> 
> I should point out that this in on Linux, so there might just be other
> issues floating about (usually are!).
> 
> AFAIK. I've never entered anything in the Netscape dialogue strings
> apart from the name of my pop3 server, the dotted quad of my SMTP
> server, my email address and my user name. So, when using fetch mail in
> Celeste opens up a "fill in the gaps" asking for my pop 3 password, I
> was entering my username. 
> 
> *I've just tried it using my ISP password (the one which wvdial uses)
> and it works!* 
> 
> This strikes me as 
> 
> a.	Wildly counter intuitive (in effect I'm sending the same password
> twice to the same agent).
> 
> b.	Terminologically dubious (is my ISP password a Pop 3 password?).
> 
> But there may be design decisions here which I'm completely unaware of.
> (After all, Windows and maybe Mac sort of bundle the whole connection
> routine into one whole.)
> 
> But thanks for the guess Steve, it set me off in the "right" direction!
> 
> Cheers
> 
> John
> 
> 
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