Billy....

Yeah, I agree that I see these things because I was trained to see them. I
think, too, that part of my predisposition here stems from the fact that I am:

(a) not a professionally trained computer scientist or programmer

(b) a strong believer in empowering end users through scripting and other
approaches to take control of their systems and their computing lives.

In this latter context, I find that I can teach people with essentially no
training at all in programming how to program using an object model in a very
short time whereas trying to teach them to program using a procedural model or
a declarative model is much more difficult.

--- Billy Tanksley <btanksley at hifn.com> wrote:
> From: Dan Shafer [mailto:dshafer at yahoo.com]
> 
> >I've read this email several times now and I keep coming up 
> >with one question:
> >what is "broken" that you are proposing to "fix" with this 
> >approach? You refer
> >to your notion of views as "more natural" than object-oriented 
> >programming, yet
> >when I look around me in the world my software must live in -- 
> >which is also,
> >by the way, the world it needs to emulate or represent -- I 
> >see objects, not
> >views. To me, the true beauty and joy of object-oriented 
> >programming derives
> >from its very naturalness. Views, OTOH, seem to me to be an artificial
> >construct on top of information, a construct for which I cannot find a
> >corresponding element in Nature.
> 
> Dan, you see these things because you've been trained to see them.  If you
> tried to see Views in nature you'd see them as well.  Objects are a use of
> metaphor, not a natural law.  There are other metaphors we can use -- or
> discard -- as appropriate.
> 
> To the original poter: Anyhow, there's some info on a system somewhat like
> what you proposed at http://www.aspectj.com.  It's definitely not the same
> thing as what you want (in fact, I prefer your system), but it addresses
> some of the same concerns.
> 
> -Billy
> 


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