>From what I have read of SqueakCentrals side is that they want a 
modular, well documented industrial strength Squeak. But they do not
yet know what that Squeak will be. So therefore they have not frozen 
any part of the system, and will not do so before a clear pattern
stands out. And I have no objections to this, there is several 
interesting and compelling directions inside Squeak and I enjoy every 
brain shaking part of it.
Karl

Dan Shafer wrote:
> 
> This discussion is clearly crucial to the future development and broad
> deployment of Squeak. My sense is that those of us in Outer Squeak (nice term,
> by the way) need to find someone to grab this mouse by the ears and fork a
> version of Squeak that will go forward with some of these issues in mind.
> 
> SqueakC is not concerned with many of these things because their mission is not
> to create an industrial-strength, generic problem-solving system for all of us.
> Their mission is to create a great tool for doing the things they want and need
> to do. They've been clear about that from the very beginning. At the risk of
> speaking for a bunch of guys who are quite articulate enough, thank you very
> much, to do so themselves, it seems to me that we need to draw a line, fork
> Squeak (I don't know if 3.0 or 3.1 is the right one to fork with yet) and
> create a Red Hat kind of company that will caretake the product, referee and
> manage releases, and become the repository Disney has been for the last several
> years.
> 
> Full modularization on something resembling the Python model should be a goal
> of this new project, I think. There is very little it can hurt and much it can
> help. I don't know this for certain, but I bet SqueakC would say that there is
> no earthly reason why that modularization can't be done by someone in Outer
> Squeakdom. And I'm sure that SqueakC won't completely divorce itself; its
> members will be available to help when things get very cloudy and sticky at the
> core.
> 
> I have a very deep interest in the formation of this Red Hat-like organization
> and indeed have been working for the past couple of months to put it together.
> There is, of course, room for more than one such organization and I'd encourage
> others who have an interest in taking Squeak in directions that are not,
> inherently, part of the SqueakC/Disney agenda, to consider doing so.
> 
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