Hi Alan.
I've never seen Eudora, never mind it's heart ;-)
I'm interested in what you think Celeste lacks to be at that level...

(Minimal means different things to different people - Celeste doesn't
feel minimal to me.. naturally..)

Daniel

Alan Kay <Alan.Kay at squeakland.org> wrote:
> I think the heart of Eudora qualifies as a minimal workable email 
> client. I would love to see Celeste taken to that level, including a 
> nicer UI (though Eudora could also be better in this regard). It 
> would be nice to have a global "Celeste & other comm flap", etc.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Alan
> 
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> 
> 
> At 5:32 PM -0600 10/31/01, Jimmie Houchin wrote:
> >John Hinsley wrote:
> >
> >>  I'd like to switch from Communicator to Celeste. I don't have any
> >>  problems with multiple ISPs and such.
> >>
> >>  The problem I do have is simply the huge amount (well, hugeness is
> >>  relative, currently nudging half a gig and all in standard Netscape 4.7*
> >>  on *nix format) of stuff I have to transfer over. It can't be as simple
> >>  as copying all the child directories over, or can it?
> >>
> >>  Ideas, advice and cries of "don't do it!" welcome.
> >>
> >>  Cheers
> >>
> >>  John
> >>
> >
> >I too, would like to switch from Communicator to Celeste.
> >
> >I use Communicator on WinME (at work, no choice :( ) and at home on 
> >Debian Sid with Mozilla 0.95. I tried Ximian's Evolution but just 
> >didn't/haven't really liked it.
> >
> >I have 10s to 100+ mailboxes hierarchically organized.
> >I have close to 600mb and 90,000 messages in mail.
> >
> >I would love for Celeste to be able to handle that.
> >
> >It seems to me (maybe incorrectly) that Celeste would need to do 
> >similarly to other clients in that the mail file needs to be broken 
> >up into multiple files, generally according to the mailbox scheme 
> >set up by the user.
> >
> >In Communicator each mailbox has it's own file and index. I believe 
> >Eudora is similar.
> >
> >I asked my wife the other day what it would take to get her away 
> >from Eudora. She's open to such a move but it would have to be 
> >reasonably feature equivalent and user friendly. She and my children 
> >are currently on Macs.
> >
> >It would be nice if Celeste had UI choices (skins, chromes, faces, 
> >whatever). One of which was similar to the other email clients so 
> >that a migration path could be made from Communicator, Outlook, 
> >Eudora, etc to Celeste. After migrating and becoming comfortable 
> >with Celeste/Squeak then they could possibly if they choose move to 
> >a potentially different and more powerful UI.
> >
> >Being able to import or use standard mbox format mailboxes would be 
> >great. I frequently join mailing lists which have either 
> >downloadable archives or archives available from the mail server. It 
> >would be nice for Celeste to handle that.
> >
> >For example this mailing list is archived (back to July 01) at:
> >http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/
> >
> >I look forward to using Celeste and hopefully contributing to it's 
> >advancement once I become more Squeak proficient.
> >
> >Jimmie Houchin
> 
> 
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