[celeste] moving from Communicator to Celeste....

danielv at netvision.net.il danielv at netvision.net.il
Thu Nov 1 23:50:39 UTC 2001


Hi Jimmie.

Generally, I suggest you play around with it a bit to get familiar with
it - you can just download your mail to it - in the default state, it
will leave your mail on the server, so it won't bother your usual
archiving. 

Celeste has an interesting work model which is somewhat different from
most mailers I know, so it's worth knowing what it's about before
deciding whether to move, or what features it might benefit from.

Jimmie Houchin <jhouchin at texoma.net> wrote:
> I have 10s to 100+ mailboxes hierarchically organized.
Ouch - that might be a problem. Celeste doesn't have hierarchial
folders. I don't know if anyone uses it with 10s of categories, I have
about 10, so I can't say if much more would still be comfortable. One
way to find out, probably...

> I have close to 600mb and 90,000 messages in mail.
> I would love for Celeste to be able to handle that.
I wouldn't worry about the load much - Celeste can probably handle that
nicely, assuming you have about a few 10s of MB RAM for the indexes. 
 
> It seems to me (maybe incorrectly) that Celeste would need to do 
> similarly to other clients in that the mail file needs to be broken up 
> into multiple files, generally according to the mailbox scheme set up by 
> the user.
Having one in-memory index is nice in that you slice your mail
arbitrarily (for example, according to sender) across all categories
very easily. That's a part of the Celeste way, and not likely to change.
("In memory" is an implementation detail, and thus pretty flexible, but
the logical concept is pretty firm).
 
> In Communicator each mailbox has it's own file and index. I believe 
> Eudora is similar.
> 
> I asked my wife the other day what it would take to get her away from 
> Eudora. She's open to such a move but it would have to be reasonably 
> feature equivalent and user friendly. She and my children are currently 
> on Macs.
> 
> It would be nice if Celeste had UI choices (skins, chromes, faces, 
> whatever). One of which was similar to the other email clients so that a 
> migration path could be made from Communicator, Outlook, Eudora, etc to 
> Celeste. After migrating and becoming comfortable with Celeste/Squeak 
> then they could possibly if they choose move to a potentially different 
> and more powerful UI.
> 
> Being able to import or use standard mbox format mailboxes would be 
> great. I frequently join mailing lists which have either downloadable 
> archives or archives available from the mail server. It would be nice 
> for Celeste to handle that.
> 
> For example this mailing list is archived (back to July 01) at:
> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/
> 
> I look forward to using Celeste and hopefully contributing to it's 
> advancement once I become more Squeak proficient.
> 
> Jimmie Houchin




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