Anyone Squeaking at ACM SIGCSE?
Alan Kay
Alan.Kay at squeakland.org
Mon Nov 5 05:17:16 UTC 2001
Well, Mark, the problem with "peer review" (and "trial by a jury of
peers") is that they almost never come up with actual peers. (I
personally have always detested (and ignored) this mechanism in ACM
and NSF, etc.)
Cheers,
Alan
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At 9:55 PM -0500 11/4/01, Mark Guzdial wrote:
>Did anyone get any papers on Squeak accepted at the ACM SIGCSE
>(Computer Science Education) conference?
>
>I submitted both a workshop (on teaching with Squeak) and a paper
>(on the computer music class I've been teaching and the active
>essays we're using), and both were rejected. Workshops aren't
>reviewed (decision made by committee), so I have no feedback on
>that. The paper had four reviews:
>- First reviewer didn't get why anyone would want to teach computer
>music in a CS department: "A type of course that is not common in
>computing, but that has been used in mathematics and physics (at
>least) for a number of years to illustrate various mathematical
>concepts. May be of interest to some attendees, but of little
>interest to the majority." Gave it a 4/6.
>- Second reviewer gave it 5/6. "A demonstration of the coding for a
>couple algorithms along with the resulting output would be a
>striking demonstration. "
>- Third reviewer gave it 6/6. "Please accept this paper. Live demos
>of every aspect -- SQUEAK, Active Essays. The audience will be
>delighted."
>- Fourth reviewer killed it with 2/6. "I am not sure where this
>material would be incorporated in a typical CS curriculum. " He
>didn't like the idea of teaching a "specialized language" (Squeak)
>nor of teaching "computer professionals how to _generate_ music" --
>he says that they should just use "recordings."
>
>The lesson for me is that the hardcore CS educator is harder to sell
>than I realized. I'm hoping that some others fared better -- anyone?
>
>Mark
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>Associate Professor - Learning Sciences & Technologies.
>Collaborative Software Lab - http://coweb.cc.gatech.edu/csl/
>(404) 894-5618 : Fax (404) 894-0673 : guzdial at cc.gatech.edu
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