A stupid newbie question

Alan Kay Alan.Kay at squeakland.org
Mon Oct 8 20:21:05 UTC 2001


The plugin download installs all automatically. One gets projects 
first via the browser, then via Squeak. .pr files are supposed to 
allow double clicking. Seems pretty kosher to me.

P.S. Arguments that something bad but long established (such as MS 
Windows conventions) should be catered to don't have a lot of force 
for me. The whole idea is to get the user into Squeak (but not the 
Squeak on Squeak.org -- that is only for hackers, and hackers should 
be able to cope). Our real experiments are being done from 
Squeakland.org (unfortunately delayed by various retro processes in 
the last 9 months).

Cheers,

Alan

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At 6:38 PM +0100 10/8/01, Gary McGovern wrote:
>  >       (I, personally, don't care at all about the latter goal just
>>  because one of the charms of Squeak -- to me anyway -- is that it is
>>  a rich environment with powerful authoring at many levels. So, e.g.,
>>  I do not like the Adobe PDF reader that will not allow me to make
>>  comments, annotations, etc. And I think Squeak media that don't allow
>>  the "reader" to also be an author are really just throwbacks to
>>  simple minded consumerism and computerism.)
>>
>>  Squeak Central's notion, which I think is shared my many on the list,
>>  is to have a minimal sized download that can automatically pull in
>>  further stuff from the Internet when needed or when advised. That is,
>>  I would like to see the dynamic late binding preserved (as though the
>>  Internet itself were the holder of the image and could provide
>>  resources automatically as needed).
>>
>Dear Alan,
>This may all be all right for some people, and idealistic, but are you
>considering new people. I see some new people to computing who have a really
>hard time just using a web browser or email client. Using Squeak on Windows
>deviates from the HCI principle of familiarity, dragging an image over an
>exe isn't normal for Windows. Installing Squeak on Linux is a complex
>operation in  itself. I'd question any user, task and situation analysis
>that have been done.
>Regards,
>Gary
>Excuse the newbie teaching the master.


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