A stupid newbie question
Alan Kay
Alan.Kay at squeakland.org
Wed Oct 10 12:25:39 UTC 2001
Ken --
Monads did have some influence on my thinking -- though it's pretty
clear that Squeak is quite Platonic in its structure (too Platonic in
my opinion).
Cheers,
Alan
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At 7:37 PM -0700 10/9/01, Ken Kahn wrote:
>Justin Walsh wrote:
>>
>> I tend to want to agree with you: kill off Kens analogy but, there must
>be
>> something significant in that an ordinary, commonse person like Ken would
>> use (imply) such analogies: domination and Darwinian survival of the
>> fittest, assumptions like mammaliam superiority over dinosaurs,
>development
>> etc (when dinosaurs had attained intelligence and flight). Perhaps I've
>> missed the irony?
>> I don't like the idea of Squeak becoming merely a popular rabies infected
>> rodent.
>> Anyway if there has to be a battle at all, I prefer it be in the realm of
>> mere abstract ideas and computer simulation than in concrete. Tragicaly
>it
>> doesn't end there.
>>
>
>I used to believe that programming languages could compete and succeed in
>the realm of abstract ideas. I've seen too many good languages die and too
>many bad languages succeed to maintain that belief. Economics, social,
>psychological, and ecological factors, and marketing seem to matter more.
>
>> This extract was published in 1781. It influenced Dewey and Piaget who in
>> turn influenced Alan Kay.
>> Unfortunately very few have properly studied him or even Alan Kay for that
>> matter.
>>
>I read Kant's Critique of Pure Reason about 25 years ago and don't see the
>relevance. Please elaborate.
>
>On the topic of pre-computational philosophers, Liebnitz's monads seem have
>some connection with object-oriented programming.
>
>Best,
>
>-ken kahn ( www.toontalk.com )
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