Leibniz & Leibnitz & Brian Smith

Justin Walsh jwalsh at bigpond.net.au
Thu Oct 11 04:12:29 UTC 2001


Hi Andres!
If you are correct about the spelling of Leibnitz then somebody should
inform the Germans.
Do a find on Leibnitz in attachment. You may be still correct. I just found
half a dozen spelling mistakes in my last letter. I'm the last person to
correct poor spelling. Good thing it's not a hanging offence eh!
Cheers
Justin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andres Valloud" <sqrmax at prodigy.net>
To: <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: Leibniz & Leibnitz & Brian Smith


> Hi.
>
> > > First, Leibniz spelled his last name "Leibniz" (and not "Leibnitz",
> > > "Liebnitz" etc.),
>
> Leibniz is the correct spelling, AFAIK.  Some years ago I took a course
> on history of mathematics, and I studied his life (among others).  I
> found him to be the first person that wrote something like "in the
> future we might get a machine to find and verify all the theorems
> possible from a set of axioms".
>
> > Has anyone here read the book "On the Origin of Objects" by Brian
> > Cantwell Smith ( http://www.ageofsig.org/people/bcsmith/ )?
>
> Not me.  However, what I find very interesting is that we say "In a
> Smalltalk system everything is an object, and everything gets done when
> objects send messages".  IMHO, that everything is an object is
> insignificant when compared to the requirement that everything gets done
> by sending messages.
>
> Why objects is easier to see.  But why messages?
>
> Now that I think about it again, is the key in the fact that you don't
> expect an answer after a command, while you expect an answer from a
> message?  By expecting an answer you expect objects to be intelligent
> enough to tell you something interesting, like living things usually do.
>
> Messaging would be something that encourages to put smarts into objects,
> because we developers put ourselves in the situation of objects very
> easily when they send messages.  The moment objects start talking, we
> can use all our machinery of language interpretation to figure things
> out.  So regardless of why messages in particular, the thing is that it
> encourages a particular kind of understanding in a system full of
> objects.
>
> Sometimes I wonder what would happen if somebody came up with Message
> Oriented Quantum Mechanics, Message Oriented Physics or Message Oriented
> Genetics...
>
> Andres.
>
>
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