Lots of concurrency

Gary McGovern garywork at lineone.net
Sun Oct 28 23:05:05 UTC 2001


Hello Alan,
I have to pull you up on something here. A person playing keyboard, driving
a car and so on doesn't always think about what they are doing. Often it is
trained into the body or mind or whatever through repetition and practice
and maybe in a linear fashion.
Regards,
Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Kay" <Alan.Kay at squeakland.org>
To: <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 4:13 AM
Subject: RE: Lots of concurrency


> But Herb didn't play Bach on the pipe organ *or* think about what he
> was doing when driving a car, or even just walking and talking and
> looking and feeling ....  his intellect was "amazing" (in a very
> special sense of that word)...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alan
>
> -------
>
> At 9:46 PM -0400 10/25/01, Mark Guzdial wrote:
> >As far as I know, Herb Simon didn't argue about naturalness of
> >parallelism in programming languages.  Herb Simon was one of the
> >pioneers of cognitive science, and he argued that the mind was
> >single-threaded.  (Simon was also one of the most amazing intellects
> >of our time -- a Nobel prize winner in Economics and a Turing Award
> >winner in computer science)
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >>Fascinating and important questions being debated in this thread; I just
> >>wanted to ask Mark (or anyone else who knows) what the Herb Simon
arguments
> >>and evidence in opposition to the "naturalness" of
parallelism/concurrency
> >>in programming languages he was referring to.  Perhaps a brief textual
> >>summary of the arguments, and maybe a pointer to the evidence?
> >>
> >> - Jerry Balzano
> >>
> >>At 10:38 AM -0700 10/25/01, Mark Guzdial wrote:
> >>>We're getting into some of my favorite literature, so I wanted to jump
in
> >>>here.
> >>>
> >>>>And I think it is just an illusion
> >>>>that this parallelism is only at a low level (e.g. neurons). Read
Minsky's
> >>>>Society Theory of Mind ( http://www.media.mit.edu/people/minsky/ ) for
> >>>>example.
> >>>
> >>>But also consider Herb Simon's arguments in opposition -- and Simon
> >>>has a lot more empirical evidence in his favor.  I don't have an
> >>>opinion on which is right yet, but I don't think that this is a
> >>>settled point.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-------------------------
> >>Dr. Gerald J. Balzano
> >>Teacher Education Program
> >>Dept of Music
> >>Laboratory for Comparative Human Cognition
> >>Cognitive Science Program
> >>UC San Diego
> >>La Jolla, CA 92093
> >>(619) 822-0092
> >>gjbalzano at ucsd.edu
> >
> >--------------------------
> >Mark Guzdial : Georgia Tech : College of Computing : Atlanta, GA
30332-0280
> >Associate Professor - Learning Sciences & Technologies.
> >Collaborative Software Lab - http://coweb.cc.gatech.edu/csl/
> >(404) 894-5618 : Fax (404) 894-0673 : guzdial at cc.gatech.edu
> >http://www.cc.gatech.edu/gvu/people/Faculty/Mark.Guzdial.html
>
>
> --
>
>
>





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