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Andy Stoffel
Andrew.Stoffel at jenzabar.net
Mon Apr 1 22:29:20 UTC 2002
ducasse [ducasse at iam.unibe.ch] wrote
> java at fiberia.com wrote:
> > bought squeak: trip to objectland book. big mistake. book
> > has lots of typos & mistakes. stuck on first exercise.
Haven't noticed any typos but having the first example or two
not work can be a bit disconcerting.
Don't the authors provide e-mail addresses ? If not... Hmm... a
google search will eventual lead you to e-mail addresses for at
least two of the authors. And the third seems to work for/with
the other two in Oregon.
> > book mentions corrections on addison-wesley website.
> > unable to find such a page on website. anyone have any
> > clues on what next?
Hmm.... looks like they (Addison-Wesley) needs to get their
act together. They seem to have two different web sites for this book:
http://www.aw.com/catalog/academic/product/1,4096,0201731142,00.html
http://cseng.aw.com/book/0,,0201731142,00.html
and not the same content.
> I'm sorry to say that but this book is not interesting.
For you or for anyone ? I've been reading it to see if it will
improve my understanding of things Smalltalk & Squeak & I find
a bit light but not offensively so.
> Addison wanted to have a book on Squeak so they redesigned
> an old book to get a squeak product.
And as we all know, only "new" things are good. :-).
The older, non-Squeak edition seems to get mentioned as a good
Smalltalk book in a number of places...
> This book ends up in the category reads once throw away.
I won't quote from the book but words to that effect are actually
stated somewhere in the introduction/preface to the book
(which is available on a few web sites for the book).
> and this is a pity because there are so much to show on squeak.
If you read the book the intent ISN'T to turn someone into
a Squeak expert. It is using Squeak/Smalltalk to introduce
object oriented programming concepts. For anyone who has
been doing things with Smalltalk for a while... well...
it'll probably put them to sleep.
> The price they sold it is also crazy.
Can't say I'm thrilled with the price of ANY non-Microsoft/Linux
related programming books "out there" but have assumed (wrongly?)
that this is due to the usual "market forces" for anything
resembling a textbook....
-Andy-
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