Self in C++ (was: Apple hyping java...)

Jecel Assumpcao Jr jecel at
Mon Apr 1 21:00:58 UTC 2002

On Sunday 31 March 2002 23:40, Bijan Parsia wrote:
> But we really have to just disagree, or launch the experiement. I
> will point to the fact that Smalltalk has been used for *very* large
> systems (easily the size you describe), including every Smalltalk
> system. Self's dynamic profiler/optimizer was written in Self.

Actually, the whole Self virtual machine including the two compilers is 
written in C++ (the sources are available to anyone who isn't scare of 
80kloc in that ugly language ;-).

This was a mistake, which Squeak fixed with the Slang thing. But full 
Smalltalk (or Self) is a much better choice for writing compilers.

-- Jecel

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