Dan Ingalls wrote:

>Scott Wallace <scott.wallace at squeakland.org>  asked...
>
>  >It seems to me that no Squeaker could plausibly have been doing 
>any real work in MVC in any 3.2 or 3.3a since this bug arrived more 
>than eight months ago, because the mere raising of a single debugger 
>would have put his environment into a state no reasonable person 
>could tolerate.  And he would therefore have screamed and we would 
>have heard.

Having checked the stamps in my changesets, I can say I've been 
flipping between Morphic and MVC projects in 3.2a4586 (i.e., after 
the 4487 cs) last December.  There were some text display issues in 
1-bit mode that I recall; but indeed I may have performed most 
development work in Morphic, and only occasionally switched to the 
MVC project.  Could very well be that I never actually *proceeded* 
through a notifier there...

>  >Consequently, I'm not too surprised that there has not been a 
>single response posted to this thread, other than Boris's original 
>bug report and my reply.

Sorry -- I saw it, but couldn't reply.  (I have a hard time following 
*some* of  SqueakML at all these days.)

>  >But is it really true that there are actually *no* MVC 
>practitioners using either Squeak 3.2 or 3.3a , no one at all, 
>except Boris?

My other MVC platform (that hasn't received much attention either 
lately) is the iPAQ with 3.0f3552 and 3.1a4332.

>So if you are or might be an MVC user, in addition to answering Scott,
>please say...
>
>	What release do you use now?
>	Do you plan to move to 3.2 in the near future?

I *have* 3.2f (on OSX) now, but have recently switched machines and 
haven't filed in or continued my projects yet.  I *am* grateful for 
the workaround that Scott posted.

HTH,
Helge