Also, Dan a few year ago for fun did an emulation of the Alto in 
Squeak that would run Smalltalk-72. The original "blue book" that 
contained the ST-72 system bootstrap is quite fun to read.

Cheers,

Alan

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At 10:18 AM -0400 8/2/02, PhiHo Hoang wrote:
>Hi Alan,
>
>     Thanks for the info. Frankly (and shame on me), I have not read the
>papers you mentioned.
>
>     Please post a pointer when you have it. Maybe many others did not have a
>chance to read them either.
>
>     It would be fun to look at the first VM, the first compiler and the
>first image.
>
>     I guess they all fit on a floppy (180KB ;-)
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     PhiHo.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Alan Kay" <Alan.Kay at squeakland.org>
>To: <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:52 AM
>Subject: RE: Progrmaming in Bytecode?
>
>
>>  The story about Smalltalk-72 is in "The Early History of Smalltalk"
>>  that I wrote for ACM's "History of Programming Languages" in 93. I
>>  have a pdf file which I'll put on an FTP server somewhere. Also, Dan
>>  wrote a truly great paper a few years after Smalltalk-72 about
>>  Smalltalk-76, a little of which I included in the "History". However,
>>  you should read this as well. I think it was for POPL 78, and there
>>  is probably an online copy somewhere ....
>>
>>  Cheers,
>>
>>  Alan
>>
>>  At 1:21 AM -0400 8/2/02, PhiHo Hoang wrote:
>>  >Dan,
>>  >
>>  >>  Fire up those new-age compilers and take us into the new world!
>>  >
>>  >> - D
>>  >
>>  > OTOH, I want to go back to the future to look for an old-age
>>  >compiler.
>>  >
>>  > The one that generated _the_very_first_Smalltalk_image.
>>  >
>>  > ( The image that Adam used to show Eva her (e)toy :-).
>>  >
>>  > Just wondering if that compiler was written in C(obol) or
>>  >S(nobol).
>>  >
>>  > Don't I wish that it were written in S(lang) so that it could be
>>  >turned into a plugin ;-)
>>  >
>>  > The 30th Anniversary for Smalltalk is around the corner.
>>  >
>>  > Would you tell us how was _the_very_first_Smalltalk_image
>>  >created ?
>>  >
>>  > And who did it.
>>  >
>>  > Cheers,
>>  >
>>  > PhiHo.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >-----Original Message-----
>>  >From: squeak-dev-admin at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>>  >[mailto:squeak-dev-admin at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Dan
>>  >Ingalls
>>  >Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:38 PM
>>  >To: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>>  >Subject: RE: Progrmaming in Bytecode?
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >>  >   The single cycle
>>  >>>    thing isn't necessarily relevant for Smalltalk,  but those
>>  >"extended"
>>  >>>    bytecodes are really distasteful to me.
>>  >>
>>  >>I find them distasteful too.  I also find the multiple object header
>>  >>formats equally distasteful.  OTOH, every little bit counts when trying
>>  >
>>  >>to minimise the size of the image -- and there a more than a few people
>>  >
>>  >>putting Squeak to work on severely limited machines.
>>  >
>>  >Well, bytecodes do have their place, of course ;-).
>>  >
>>  >But it's great to hear you guys finding the whole current mess
>>  >distasteful...
>>
>>
>>  --
>>


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