This is close to what Glenn remembered, but ParcPlace did not exist then 
and so is technically not a ST80 implementor.  I could not find anyone 
who could tell for sure whether it got all the rights to everything 
Smalltalk-related, or just the technology current in 1988.  I've heard 
several conflicting versions.

--Vassili

Alan Kay wrote:

> Folks --
> 
> Though I was a few years gone from PARC in 83, I recall that the first 
> implementors of ST80 were all given ownership of the image, etc. This 
> included the companies in the Green book: DEC, Tektronix, Apple, etc. 
> Squeak itself was derived from the image that Apple implemented and 
> owned (and part of the reason we went back to this for Squeak was to 
> establish clear title, etc.).
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Alan
> 
> ------
> 
> 
> At 5:05 PM -0800 2/9/02, Vassili Bykov wrote:
> 
>> Bob Hartwig wrote:
>>
>>>> Nice.  If this is a nostalgic show-and-tell Saturday, also have a 
>>>> look at the screenshot at
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/VisualWorks/DOWNLOAD/vb/st80InABox.jpg
>>>>
>>>
>>> Cool.  Is this downloadable from somewhere Vassili?
>>>
>>>     -Bob
>>
>>
>>
>> There is one thing that concerns me, otherwise it would come as a 
>> goodie with VW 5i.4.  It's no use without the ST80 image, and I could 
>> not find out clearly enough who owns it now: us, Adele, or still 
>> Xerox.  Glenn said he *thought* under the original Xerox copyright it 
>> was OK to redistribute it with a VM implementation, which would fit 
>> the case, but he wasn't 100% sure about that.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Vassili Bykov [|] <vassili at parcplace.com>
>>
>> "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds,
>> and the pessimist knows it is." -- J R Oppenheimer
> 
> 
> 



-- 
Vassili Bykov [|] <vassili at parcplace.com>

"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds,
and the pessimist knows it is." -- J R Oppenheimer