Well thank you for those. I mentioned more intelligent objects months ago and it went down like a 
lead balloon. Perhaps one day there'll be intelligent objects in an intelligent system and we can 
dispense with dumb objects on dumb OSes.

Couldn't vouch for the implementation though.

Regards,
Gary
(Don't be afraid be very afraid, M$ has 90% stock in all Lino distros ;-) )

25/02/02 23:53:16, Jerry Bell <jdbell at fareselaw.com> wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I have a couple of PIE documents which the folks at PARC were nice enough to
>copy and send me.  They are scanned and I've just made them available:
>
>A Layered Approach to Software Design
>(Ira P. Goldstein and Daniel G.Bobrow, CSL-80-5 December 1980)
>1.9 MB
>
>http://www.dolphinharbor.org/docs/PIE%20Layered%20Approach.pdf 
>
>and: 
>
>An Experimental Description-Based Programming Environment: Four Reports
>(Ira Goldstein and Daniel Bobrow, CSL-81-3 March 1981)
>3.18MB
>
>http://www.dolphinharbor.org/docs/PIE%20four%20reports.pdf
>
>Both are (c) Xerox.  I hope there is no problem posting them.
>
>
>Hope these are useful,
>
>Jerry Bell
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: squeak-dev-admin at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> [mailto:squeak-dev-admin at lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Jim
>> Benson
>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 10:47 PM
>> To: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> Subject: Re: Getting rid of metaclasses (Was: Behaviors vs Modules)
>> 
>> 
>> Nathanael,
>> 
>> > The ideas of having multiple roles/views/perspectives 
>> associated to an
>> > object sounds very interesting and promising. I'd really 
>> like to know more
>> > about these PIE system and its implementation. If you have 
>> any pointers to
>> > some information, please let me know.
>> >
>> 
>> The only place I've seen any of this written up was in the 
>> book Interactive
>> Programming Environments [1984] edited by Barstow, Shrobe, 
>> Sandewall, ISBN
>> 0-07-003885-6. PIE is written up as "A Layered Approach to 
>> Software Design"
>> by Goldstein and Bobrow. pp 387-413. This paper was 
>> originally published as
>> Xerox Parc CSL-80-5.
>> 
>> Whenever I want to be depressed, I just pick that book up and 
>> start reading.
>> It represented the state of the art in '84, and it's amazing 
>> how little
>> things have advanced since then.
>> 
>> I haven't found anything online, but I hoped that this 
>> information might
>> help.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> 
>> 
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