Steve

Daniel apparently is not interested anymore to help or maintain RB so I 
would suggest
a simple schema to have ready for everyone RB.
Could you create a project at squeak foundation and put the current 
version you have
with a small script allowing to load RB in one click? then when other bug 
fixes will come anybody could create a new distribution.

Then we should try to collect enhancements. I'm **really** too busy to 
support improving RB but I would like to use it and push other to use it. 
I use it in VW and yes indeed I program really fast with it.

Stef

On Friday, May 3, 2002, at 08:19  PM, Steve Gilbert wrote:

> "stephane ducasse (home)" wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> which version are you using?
>> I would like to help to bring RB in a good state. It would be good if we
>> could have a page on the squeak foundation for that.
>>
>> Are you interested because RB was on college
>> Squeak alpha version http://squeak.heeg.de:8080/squeak/packages/
>> and the patch that was never included in the previous web page
>> http://scgwiki.iam.unibe.ch:8080/SmalltalkWiki/143
>>
>> Stef
>
> Stef,
>
> Currently, I'm working from 3.2gamma #4827.
>
> The version that I'm using is the one that you get by accessing the SCAN
> repository using URL:
> http://squeak.heeg.de:8080/TFODC69UQ0MFRIHMG40DRML1CU7VYZ9
>
> I guess that currently that's version 12 of 2001-12-01.
>
> I just downloaded the files specified in the script on that page.
> However, the SUnit tests for that version of the RB requires some
> external files to successfully complete "all" of the tests. See my
> initial posting to this thread.
>
> Also, I found that the test
> BrowserEnvironmentTest>>testCategoryEnvironment is either in an infinite
> loop, or just takes an unusual amount of time to complete. So I renamed
> it by pre pending "skip" to it so that it wouldn't run for now.
>
> Also there is a method called "test" that gets added to Object when the
> RB cs's are loaded.  This causes one of the RB SUnit tests to fail,
> because the test is expecting to see 2 testing methods and now sees
> three.  Anyway, I changed the method to "flagTesting" and all of it's
> callers to make the problem test work correctly again.
>
> Finally, there was a problem with the BrowserEnvironment>>keysFor:
> method failing on "obsolete" methods.  This is now fixed with the latest
> cs from SqC that came in the recent update stream. See:
> 4855ClassBuilderFix3-2 -- Nathanael Schärli & Andreas Raab -- 23 April
> 2002.  Good work guys!
>
> So after all of that, I can successfully run all the SUnit tests
> associated with the standard image as well as the RB and SUnit packages.
>
> I would love to see the modification to RBScanner class>>initialize be
> put into the SCAN repository.  That way everyone would stand a chance of
> having a working RB right out of the box.  Also, there should probably
> be a new unit test to protect against the errors that occur if this
> change has not been made. There are a whole lot of SUnit tests for RB
> that call a "needsWork" method.  Those should be looked into at some
> point.
>
> As far as my interest in the RB. I've used it a good deal in VW and am
> impressed by the gain that I get in productivity using it.  It is one of
> the pieces that I think is "Fundamental" to moving Squeak forward. That,
> and more SUnit tests.
>
> I think that RB will be especially useful in completing the re-factoring
> necessary to complete the modules work.
>
> My biggest problem, is that I certainly don't have a firm grasp on how
> the RB works, in a detailed way.  Therefore, it's difficult to make
> judgments on what work is left to be done to make the tool useful enough
> for daily usage.
>
> Steve
>