New update stream (was Re: [Squeakfoundation]Order of business ...)
Scott Wallace
scott.wallace at squeakland.org
Sat Nov 16 07:47:36 UTC 2002
At 12:52 AM +0300 11/16/02, danielv at netvision.net.il wrote:
>Hi Scott.
>
>We got no answers from you on:
I apologize for not replying sooner, but I hope you'll find the wait
has been worthwhile ;-)
> > Three issues we should start moving on, IMO:
>> 1. Process to take physical ownership of updates.
>> * Scott/SqC - do you have any remaining agenda for 3.4a/3.2.1, to
> > settle before handing over the "keys"?
The Guides have the "keys" already, in the sense that no updates are
being published by SqC without the prior approval of the Guides.
Having said that, I should add that I had been willing and intending
and expecting to take responsibility to drive Squeak 3.4 quickly
forward, right the way through to final release within the next month
-- a "unification" release that could reunite the community; the
last monolithic image, the last SqC image, a solid basis from which
the SqueakMap culture could start to form and from which forthcoming
image refactoring and stripping could start taking place in Squeak
3.5a in a matter of weeks.
Indeed, I had been thinking of it as something that SqC *owed* to the
community, after this difficult year.
This is a lot of work, people -- stressful, exacting, time-consuming,
uncelebrated, unpaid. Thus, the sudden prospect of immediate,
complete freedom from such responsibilities is very enticing. So I
accept ;-)
If the preference and mood of the community are for an immediate and
unconditional and complete hand-over to the Guides, today, right now,
of responsibility for 3.4 (and for all Squeak versions for that
matter,) consider it done. The keys are in the ignition, guys, go
ahead and drive it off ;-)
> > * Scott, are you interested in some role (as vaguely ;-) postulated by
> > goran, or otherwise) under the guidance (sic) of us Guides?
Yes, I'm willing to serve a bridging role. If the Guides want to
send me fileouts for publication as updates, I'll gladly publish
them; this would afford the full effect of a hand-off while not for
the moment requiring us to change too many other things all at once.
> > * If neither of the above, can you explain the current existing tools
>> in the image for handling this and the required resources, so we can
> > plan a clean transition?
Well, this communication needs to be done in any case. I will
explain everything I know, but Dan is the best person to transmit
most of this information -- they're his tools, and his procedures,
and he is the person of record on the sites, guardian of the
passwords, contact person with uiuc, etc. Ted is the other leading
expert and insider in these matters.
>And if the last, then on the technical side -
>
> > I assume basically we'll need some public readable, Guides writeable
> > storage space on updates.squeakfoundation.org, and a final update on
> > both all current servers and versions that changes the urls currently in
> > the image. Am I missing something?
Sounds like you're on top of it. Good luck!
Cheers,
-- Scott
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