Further testing on a G4 Cube does not exhibit the trashed Squeak content problems.  I forgot to check on the (lack of) frame rate display problem on the Cube- it might be OK there too.  My Powerbook is running a relatively weak 3D card with only 8MB of ram, vs. 16mb on the Cube- perhaps that could be causing the problem.

re: Jim's problem with getting stuck in the world- I think you can just walk backwards and you'll be ok- clicking on the arrow on a window makes your avatar position itself so that the window fills your field of view.

The materialAlpha walkback on the sharks also occurs on XP, so it's not a platform specific problem.

Jerry Bell




> -----Original Message-----
> From: John M McIntosh [mailto:johnmci at smalltalkconsulting.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 10:21 AM
> To: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> Subject: croquet reports from an os-x user
> 
> 
> Jerry Bell jdbell at fareselaw.com sent me this feedback on the os-x  
> version, I don't have time right now to answer them because 
> I'm working  
> on getting an os-9 version VM for croquet to work, and I'm 
> sure a few  
> croquetters on the list can solve these problems.
> 
> I'll should also ask how will one handle updates for the 
> croquet image  
> to fix things within that image?
> 
> Jerry Bell:
> 
> So far I'm running the Tea Test Morph and things seem to be running  
> well.
> 
> I have noticed that the frame rate display doesn't seem to be 
> working,  
> and the Stratification billboard (between the Pyramid and Zones  
> billboards) in Andreas Raab's underwater world displays as 
> trash under  
> OS X (I'm comparing to a windows XP box- first time I've 
> actually tried  
> out the peer-to-peer stuff, it seems to work great!).
> 
> I can't directly compare frame rates but the Powerbook feels pretty  
> snappy- perhaps a little slower than the 2Ghz PIV XP box, but 
> not much-  
> hopefully that will still be the case in the larger world.
> 
> Using modifier keys and the trackpad to move around feels a 
> little odd-  
> do you have any suggestions on getting an external 3-button mouse to  
> work?
> 
> Pulling normal Squeak projects out into the world results in trash  
> similar to the billboard in Andreas Raabs' water world.
> 
> I pulled out two projects on the OS X box and both were unreadable.   
> They did not show up on the XP box either.  I pulled a 
> project out on  
> the XP box and the project did show up on both machines, however its  
> display was also trashed on the OS X machine (ok on XP 
> machine).  I was  
> able to delete the XP-generated project from the OS X box, 
> however when  
> I deleted the two projects that I had generated on the OS X 
> box (still  
> from the OS X box since they didn't show up in the XP world) 
> I received  
> two walkbacks in the XP world- both were in 
> TWindow>>doKillWindow and  
> I'm sure it is because those projects never showed up in the 
> XP world.   
> I dismissed the walkbacks and everything continued working fine.
> 
> I tried running TeapotMorph openFullScreen - yikes, 
> incredibally slow  
> and laggy!  Kill Squeak, try again, this time opening it out 
> of the new  
> morph menu- ah, much nicer, it loads and runs pretty well 
> when it's not  
> full-screen.  I tried again at a lower res- turns out that 
> full-screen  
> at 720x480 runs well on my Powerbook.  Good enough for now!
> 
> BTW the TeapotMorph won't run on the XP machine in either 
> full screen  
> or windowed- approx. half or more Windows boxes I've tried have been  
> unable to run one or both test worlds, even if they have decent  
> graphics cards.
> 
> Nothing new to report except that the embedded projects are 
> trashy in  
> this world too- however, the embedded movie of the barn raising does  
> look right and it will play etc.
> 
> 
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