A few wish list items

Stephane Ducasse ducasse at iam.unibe.ch
Thu Nov 21 09:02:14 UTC 2002


sorry stephen this is not a lost of time. It would be good that this 
point is FIXED once for all.
For me _ is not readable depending on the screen inclination. Really 
cool feature.

I had to rewrite a part of my book because of this bad bad arrow in not 
present in all fonts.
The key point is not to design all the fonts to have the arrow (even if 
I would know how I would not do it)
  But to be consistent. I started to use <- for my book and then I saw 
that sometimes I got an _
so I stepped back and used := for all these reasons.

Stef


On jeudi, novembre 21, 2002, at 02:54  am, Stephen Pair wrote:

> I agree with you on the assignment issue...however, I really don't 
> care what
> other people that don't use squeak think about it.
>
> I am very fond of the arrow (and used to argue that it was an endearing
> quality of Squeak), but the reality is that it's not comfortable in the
> modern ASCII world and when I use other dialects it steals too many 
> brain
> cycles in trying to remember which assignment characters to use.  For a
> while I switched to using := so that it wasn't an issue when using 
> other
> dialects...but I've since reverted back to _ because that's what most
> Squeakers use.  Uggg...it would just be nice if this issue wasn't an 
> issue.
> It comes up from time to time on the list and is just a waste of time 
> for
> people to even have to think about.
>
> - Stephen
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: squeak-dev-admin at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> [mailto:squeak-dev-admin at lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Bill
>> Schwab
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 6:51 PM
>> To: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> Subject: Re: A few wish list items
>>
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Stef has it right in focusing on the compatibility with other
>> Smalltalks.  My thought is more about rats (with me one step
>> behind them) leaving a sinking ship (the USS Redmond comes to
>> mind), but Stef raises an excellent point that there are some really
>> nice frameworks that could be helped by some additional
>> compatibility.
>>
>> About the folks trying to dismiss Smalltalk.  Yes I know some; in
>> fact I know lots of them.  They don't understand it, and are afraid of
>> it.  The underscore snag is the kind of thing that I would much
>> rather not have to explain away because it really is a problem.  It's
>> hard enough to defend against the truly pointless FUD.
>>
>> I'm not suggesting that you should be forced to type := against
>> your will, but, I think it would be wise to find another way to 
>> provide
>> the shortcut, such that it would not taint the sources, compiler,
>> text editors, and WEB BROWSER<g>.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
>> University of Florida
>> Department of Anesthesiology
>> PO Box 100254
>> Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
>>
>> Email: bills at anest4.anest.ufl.edu
>> Tel: (352) 846-1285
>> FAX: (352) 392-7029
>>
>>
>
>
>
Dr. Stéphane DUCASSE (ducasse at iam.unibe.ch) 
http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~ducasse/
  "if you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do
  different? ... especially if, by doing something different, today
  might not be your last day on earth" Calvin&Hobbes





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