taking 3.4a to beta
Daniel Vainsencher
danielv at netvision.net.il
Thu Nov 21 21:19:35 UTC 2002
As far the SMLoader behavior - as agreed before, I changed the filtering
so that any package that has a category that is a prefix of the current
Smalltalk version will be displayed.
Since right now the packages are tagged as 3.4alpha, we'll lose them
all. I don't think we really care about that level of resolution, and
should move the packages to 3.2/3.4/.. style categories.
This shouldn't come up as an issue everytime we consider changing our
version status.
Ned, about the network issues you raised - I'm not sure we want to
address all of these in 3.4. I think we should assume that "stable" in
terms of a release means "significantly better than the previous final".
If Squeak's http requesting code wasn't industrial strength last time,
but the Mail related protocol classes were ugly too, I think we should
be happy if we get nicer mail this version, and let in the rest as it
becomes ready.
I think Michael's mail stuff may be applicable to 3.4, but that depends
on more testing (we don't want to find out too late the new
SocketStream/NetNameResolver code breaks Scamper, for example), and
Michael making a clean release of only what's tested.
It's possible as far as we know that Michael wants to continue to work
on the HTTP stuff, and integrate the whole thing later.
I personally think it would be better to test and integrate what we have
now - there'll be enough to do next version, too ;-)
Daniel
Scott Wallace <scott.wallace at squeakland.org> wrote:
> Friends,
>
> My sense is that 3.4a can now reasonably be thought of as
> feature-complete and pretty darned robust, so it would seem that we
> are right on track for releasing 3.4/final before the end of the year.
>
> Therefore, I suggest we carry 3.4 forward into beta as soon as is practicable.
>
> When the version code advances to Squeak3.4beta, how will that affect
> SqueakMap users right now?
>
> If a package is registered for 3.4alpha, then presumably we would
> also like it to be considered available for 3.4beta as well, without
> requiring the package owner to re-register it. (And the same issue
> will very quickly arise again as we advance to gamma and then to
> "final" 3.4.)
>
> So is the SqueakMap-related corpus comfortable with this transition,
> or is a little more tweaking required? Do you want to maintain an
> *ability* for a package to assert that it works, for example, in
> 3.4alpha but *not* in 3.4beta?
>
> AFAIK this is the only issue possibly standing in the way of moving
> forward into beta right away.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- Scott
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