Reminder: Ottawa Carleton Smalltalk Users Group meeting Oct 3

Karl Ramberg karl.ramberg at chello.se
Thu Oct 3 13:51:40 UTC 2002


"Richard A. O'Keefe" wrote:
> 
> Karl Ramberg <karl.ramberg at chello.se> wrote:
>         There are RealPC and VirtualPC for mac. Both simulate hardware and you
>         can install Windows on top of that. But then we are talking lot's of money,
>         low performance etc. but I guess it's possible.
> 
> I'm looking at that Gov/Edu web page for FWB RealPC v1.1.
> The page bears a 2002 date, claims support for DOS, Windows 3.1,
> Windows 95, and Windows 98, and lists an *educational* price of
> USD 24.95, with an extra USD 10 if you buy a CD.
> The International commercial price is given in Euros, and it
> is only 34.99 of those small kangaroo-like creatures.
> 
> http://www.macobserver.com/reviews/realpc.shtml
> has a date of 4 November 1997.  They were not pleased with the speed,
> but Macs have got a lot faster since then.
> 
> So "low performance" may be fair comment, but
> "lot's (sic.) of money" certainly isn't, unless you mean the price
> for the Windows software itself.
> 
> As for Connectix VirtualPC, it comes with your choice of Windows
> version already installed, at full prices ranging from USD 149 to
> USD 199.  They claim to support MacOS X, which is something FWB
> don't claim for RealPC.  I've never used the product, but this is
> again not "lot's (sic.) of money".  You _do_ need a fair bit of
> memory; if you haven't got 192MB for your OS X box, forget it.
> 
> See http://www.connectix.com/products/vpc5m.html

I have a old power mac 8500 at 150 mz. I have run both of the 
mentioned products to test them on similar systems and speed is a big issue.
I guess I will save the 150 dollars for my next computer buy. 
There are also another other simulator called MacBochs based om Bochs pc simulator
but is' very slow. 
And you do need Windows to run Elastolab. 

Karl



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