A summary of a few recent projects
danielv at netvision.net.il
danielv at netvision.net.il
Mon Oct 7 17:12:39 UTC 2002
Let me know if I can help. Also as far as I know everything is uploaded
perfect, so if you find that something's screwey, please let me know
exactly what it is even if you get around it.
Torge Husfeldt <Torge.Husfeldt at gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi Daniel and Göran,
> I had some little problems downloading your project.
> Neither Netscape 4.79 nor Opera 5.x would give me the
> real files but rather downlad an archive summary
> (opera's was more complete than the one netscape delivered)
> I finally got it with wget and will try it out soon,
> thanks for coding up such useful stuff.
> You may want to check with your swiki if it sends some
> weird things when asked for uploads, but maybe it's just me.
> danielv at netvision.net.il wrote:
> > Or, for those who're maybe wondering "what's all that noise with
> > SqueakMap, ModuleFiler, Dynamic menus and that Spaghetti thing?"
> > Well, they're all basically projects geared to make Squeak more friendly
> > to packages living outside the standard image, and the people that write
> > them and use them.
> > This is quite independent and complementary to having a modules system,
> > and can help Squeak shrink.
> > I'll explain SqueakMap first -
> > People used to unix machines find it quite normal that they have to
> > compile new packages for their computer.
> > Windows users are quite used to popping a CD in, pressing next.next.next
> > and having it appear, if they happen to have what's needed, and nothing
> > gets fubared.
> > Debian (a linux distribution) people bring up a dizzying menu with >8000
> > packages, select what they want, from a new kernel version, to a
> > shoot-em-up to an astronomy package, ask for them to be installed, and
> > drink coffee while everything is downloaded automatically from a central
> > server, where everything is (more or less) up to date, including
> > whatever libraries are needed, configured and installed.
> > In none of the above systems do most users have the same precise
> > applications installed... people can and do choose what tools and games
> > they like to have available, and there's a standard, common way to
> > realize their choice.
> > SqueakMap makes Squeak a little like Debian. Open a Morphic package
> > browser - you get an open list of packages, updateable on the web. As
> > many as have a proper download Url, can be installed by select&click.
> > So if you like Whisker or the Refactoring Browser, you can install it as
> > easy as pie, without any sort of searching at all.
> > If you're a new Squeaker, you can see what's available very easily, and
> > try things out.
> > If you're developing something neat and want to get feedback beyond the
> > next few days after you announce it on the list, post a SqueakMap
> > description, with a convinient download page, and you're set.
> > If you want to try out SqueakMap, you should wait to Gorans next (6th)
> > release, and use either his package browser, or my simpler, more limited
> > one.
> > If you want to try it NOW, use release 5, which works just fine but
> > requires a little manual work to install -
> > * unzip
> > http://anakin.bluefish.se:8000/gohu/uploads/11/squeakmap-020924.zip
> > * run sminstall-mini.st
> > * unzip and filein
> > http://anakin.bluefish.se:8000/gohu/uploads/11/SqueakMapFix-020924.cs.gz
> > * SMSqueakMapBrowser open
> > To use my package loader, also do
> > * filein
> > http://modules.squeakfoundation.org/People/dvf/Packages/SM-Loader.st
> > * SMLoader open
> > Either tool will display a list of packages. Pick one and see it's
> > details, if it has a download url, you can download/install it with a
> > couple of clicks. You're welcome to try it out. If you want to browse
> > the web UI, go to http://marvin.bluefish.se:8000/sm. You can also
> > register your own package there, it's just a form you need to fill out.
> > The idea is to get SqueakMap + a simple package loader into 3.2, so
> > people can then easily load anything they want.
> > This mail is already too long.
> > Next - DynamicOpenMenu, but that's tommorrow.
> > Daniel Vainsencher
> > PS. if I've left anything out, or you have any questions, please ask
> > on-list or off.
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