Squeak book !

goran.hultgren at bluefish.se goran.hultgren at bluefish.se
Tue Sep 3 12:21:43 UTC 2002


Just two silly little comments:

"Richard A. O'Keefe" <ok at cs.otago.ac.nz> wrote:
> "Gustavo Pistoia" <grpistoia at sinectis.com.ar> wrote:
> 	Did any body read this book?
> 	
> 	http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0130280917/ref=pd_sr_ec_ir_b/0
> 	02-8647131-2412827?v=glance&s=books
> 	
> That is, "Squeak: Open Personal Computing and Multimedia".	
> 	
> It's sitting on the chair just to the left of me right now.
> 
> It is not a book you could learn Smalltalk from.
> It's not really a book you could learn Squeak from,
> but it is certainly a book that can help you see the point of
> Squeak, and you can learn _about_ many aspects of Squeak.
> 
> Speaking personally, I found that the Morphic chapter seemed to
> stop in mid-air leaving me with practically everything still to
> learn.  But it _did_ give me the confidence to start teaching
> myself.  We desperately need something not unlike this chapter
> but about 4 times as long and current for Squeak 3.2.  (This
> chapter talks about AlignmentMorph, which we are not supposed to
> use any more.)

Andreas pointed out earlier that AlignmentMorph can indeed still be used
for the simple reason of being a bit more explicit in intention (or
something like that), but it isn't *necessary* to use anymore though
since any Morph can do what it can. If I understood that thread
correctly.

> I found the chapter on the Pluggable Web Server very interesting,
> but when I went to try things out became extremely confused about
> what the current state of the code is and what I should do.  This
> kind of thing is inevitable in something that moves as fast as Squeak,
> and if on-line documentation were kept fully up to date might not be a
> problem.  If I really cared enough about PWS, I suspect that this
> chapter _would_ be an adequate start for reading the code.

IMHO, anyone reading this and getting interested in Squeak webserving:
PWS is more or less obsolete code (as in "unmaintained" AFAICT). Use
Comanche instead which a lot of people use and which works very good
including being the base of Swiki.

regards, Göran



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