On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 12:11  PM, Michael Fremont wrote:

> At the end of the course, Mark, have the students internalized these
> design ideas?  Do follow-on courses revisit these themes and take
> them farther, for instance, talking about design patterns?

Some of them "get it" by the end.  We've done some external evaluation 
and find that our students look similar to expert practitioners at the 
end of their O-O training courses.

Follow-on courses, well...coordination among courses in an American 
University is more complicated than one might imagine...:-)  Larry 
Cuban's "How the Scholar Trumped the Teacher" is one of my favorite 
books on the subject of trying to get American University faculty to 
focus on teaching issues, and why that's so hard with historical 
evidence.

Mark

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Mark Guzdial : Georgia Tech : College of Computing
Atlanta, GA 30332-0280
Associate Professor, Learning Sciences & Technologies
Collaborative Software Lab, http://coweb.cc.gatech.edu/csl
http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~mark.guzdial/