Monticello status

Stephane Ducasse ducasse at
Mon Apr 7 06:53:16 UTC 2003

Hi avi

I still strongly believe that having a declarative model would be 
Do you think we could built something on top of moticello?

I was planning to have a look at Ginsu model for inspiration and my own 
language independent model.


On Monday, April 7, 2003, at 08:34 AM, Avi Bryant wrote:

> On Sun, 6 Apr 2003, Derek Brans wrote:
>> What happened to the old Monticello that did remote repositories? This
>> new one looks more like DVS.
> The old code is still available at
> The problem with it was that as far as I know, *nobody* was actually 
> using
> it.  Including me.  And since I wasn't using it, I wasn't hacking on it
> either (as I said at one point in the Modules discussion, I don't work
> *on* things I can't work *in* - and I make very little allowance for
> bootstrapping).
> The current version of Monticello has a more sophisticated model 
> (thanks
> in part to Colin Putney, its Patch objects are now reversible, for
> example, and its merging is better), but it has an intentionally 
> simpler
> UI - one that, as you mention, mimics DVS, and completely ignores the
> more interesting parts of the system.  This is a sneaky ploy to get 
> people
> (mostly me) to adopt the Monticello code model before the rest of
> Monticello is finished.  As I (and hopefully others) start to use it, 
> at
> first in the same old way we used DVS, more and more of what I 
> currently
> do externally (storing code, showing version histories, merging, 
> diffing)
> can be added to Monticello itself.  Eventually, we'll have a full 
> fledged
> pure Squeak versioning system.  Or that's the theory, anyway.  But the 
> key
> thing with tools like this (as we've seen a couple of times already) 
> is to
> introduce them slooooowly and incrementally.
> Cheers,
> Avi
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