Camp Smalltalk

Stephane Ducasse ducasse at
Mon Apr 7 09:02:50 UTC 2003

Marco I would ask the organizers of the camp. Because originally
camp was on invitation only (note that was never invited to a camp so 
this is not a problem, I think that invitation was a good process to 
get stuff done).  This is not a question of not been nice but the 
people there were together to program and exchange information about 
their own expertise.

I know that some people were not really happy with the camp of ESUG 
because this was
more what you are looking for. So if you want to pair program and 
discuss, learn
ask the organizer, then think about ESUG because the setup was 

At ESUG camp I would like to port SeaSide to VW and possibly Swazoo to 
Squeak but it will depend on who will attend.


On Monday, April 7, 2003, at 10:47 AM, Marco Paga wrote:

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> On Sunday 06 April 2003 21:14, Boris Gaertner wrote:
>> Marco Paga <mail at> wrote:
>>>> Hi.
>>>> I've read that CS6 will be in Germany, so I'm thinking about going 
>>>> there.
>>>> But do you think that they just want die-hard smalltalkers not me as
>>>> a newbie?
>> Discrimination of newbies would be against all traditions of Smalltalk
>> culture.I do not think that this can happen.
> This is a great thing.
>> Have you read reports from earlier CampSmalltalk events? It is 
>> perhaps a
>> good
>> idea to look at
>> for a report from the event at Essen two years ago.
>> When you search for "Camp Smalltalk" on
>> you will find 142 items.
>> To find out what will be offered at CS6, we should talk to each other.
>> It would be nice to know the plans and the expectations of the
>> participants (and those that still hesitate).
>> May I ask these persons to answer these four questions?
>> 1. Did you ever attend a CampSmalltalk?
> never before.
>> 2. Have you decided to come or do you still hesitate?
> hesitating.
>> 3. What do you want to see and to hear?
> interested in squeak and everything that belongs to the wide-spread 
> field of
> oo.
>> 4. What can you bring? (bugs, finished and unfinished code, lectures,
>>     workshops, presentations, a lot of questions, ... )
> i want to learn. read books of kent beck i am in the feeling that pair
> programming can bring you forward, so i thought it would be the best 
> way for
> me to learn from experienced smalltalkers. i don't know anybody who is 
> an
> interested smalltalker or even an interested java geek.
> in fact i would have a lot of questions and a bit of unfinished code, 
> but i
> think it is not worth to look over it.
>> I will now follow my own advice and tell you this:
>> 1. No, I did not.
>> 2. I still have not decided but I find CampSmalltalk very attractive.
>>     I will decide within the next few days.
>> 3. My interest is focused on Squeak. It is therefore understandable
>>     that I would search communication with Squeakers. (Information
>>     about other Smalltalks is of course interesting, but I would take
>>     that as 'collateral' profit. Hey folks, I managed to find the 
>> opposite
>>     of  'collateral damage' !!! )
>>     I would be delighted to learn more about multilingual Squeak,
>>     about software to write music, about mathematical software
>>     (both numerical and symbolic maths).
>> 4. My work on MVC, an unfinished maths program, a
>>     lot of interest in multilingual software and some fonts.
>> Do not forget: Registrations should be made until Apr 19.
>> Greetings,
>> Boris
> regards
> marco
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